It's far enough to attack the person with the conviction, especially if you're without fault your self - but be very careful about slandering some one else - in this case, Steve Graf. He had nothing to do with bank robbery 25 years ago, and has no criminal conviction what so ever. This 1080 issue is about corruption, and crimainal behaviour at a high level, and if a burried past must be exumed, so be it - but know that the pushers of 1080's day will come.
Amazing, Government people supposedly in power to represent the interests of 'the people' commit crimes everyday and get away with it. These guys have paid for what they did or what has been alleged. DOC, the Animal Health Board, the Environment Minister etc, etc have not. If there was one shred of credibility to what they are doing to the environment, the economy and to the supposed 'clean green image NZ has, then they need to be honest regarding the figures relating to the fatalities of the non targeted species. New Zealanders who care need, to spread the word to various concerned institutions around the World. After all there is only 1 country (us) and 1 State (USA) that use it (1080). Leave the Graf boys alone theyr'e doing a good job.
This makes no logical sense to me. When someone does something wrong, is convicted and serves time, our justice system and general ethics ask that we be generous enough to forgive and help that person to move on. It's my belief that a healthy community would be pleased about this person feeling strongly about an important issue that affects us all, and that we should support their ability to voice an opinion and make a contribution to their society. Surely it does nobody any good to continue to punish and repress people who admit they have done wrong.
Well said Patricia. Bonnie and Clyde Graf is a perfect tag for them. They are so good at deception that they have even deceived themselves into believing their own propaganda and the borrowed statements from imported/irrelevant overseas scientists. A leopard doesn't chage its spots, just its habitat.
Hang on a minute. The people in the bank/s thought his gun was real and people who have watched the anti-1080 propoganda think it's real ... and that's OK? Both the people in the bank and the viewers of the Graf's propoganda were traumatised - the people in the bank had reason to be. It would appear that Bonnie and Clyde Graf are nothing more than artists of deception.
Go hard Garfield Brothers,Keep doing what your doing today.Hes done the crime and did the time.Im a hunter myself and even written a song about AOTEAROA and how much this place means to me.In my song i state politicians trying to use the minerals and 1080 which will ruin this place.
Oh Great so if one man has a conviction it means DOC can poison the whole country guilt free??? I'm sure there are plenty of pilots and others invloved in dropping 1080 including DOC staff who have convictions. So why would trust them? This goes both ways.
Any paper or tv station who carries this story is complicit in blocking public education about an extremely serious threat to human health in NZ. This story is just an example of a typical "sliming" technique; it may be "true" but Graf's long ago and petty crime is NOTHING compared to the crimes against nature and humanity being perpetrated by DOC and Min.of Health in their irresponsible and massive use of 1080, universally banned and known to be carcinogenic and endocrine disruptor, which creates infertitlity in humans. Have a look at NZ fertility and cancer rates. And you're worried about about a petty 'bank robbery' with a fake gun from 23 years ago? Today we KNOW what crims banks are.
You are no longer to be trusted to work for anyone but yourself and hope you learn from your mistakes, trying to be a hero..respect and be honest to your community and if any chance that you may commit this actts again and therefore you can only be force and to rid of out our country forever..
Andrew - there's a reason no TV network will broadcast the doco.
