Andy Haden - interview about race comments

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Fri, 28 May 2010 7:00p.m.

Andy Haden

Andy Haden

Andy Haden led the Cavaliers to South Africa at the height of the apartied era, thought the New Zealand Rugby Union's apology to Maori was a waste of time and now claims the Crusaders choose team members based on skin colour.

Campbell Live reporter Mihingarangi Forbes spoke with Haden today:

“Now I think it's very pc to not discuss those sorts of things and I think if you have something like that, tuck it away in the recess of your mind, pretend it’s not there, you not being terribly honest about the situation because people discuss this kind of thing all over the country,” says Haden.

The claims have incensed Hamish Riack the head of Canterbury Rugby.

“What I said was that this is a very pc subject, people don't like to discuss it. It was in Laidlaw's book, I was asked a question about the browning of New Zealand rugby. The chapter in the book says the Crusaders are different from them like the Hurricanes and the Blues and my point was that I’d spoken to members of the Crusaders management previous times and they raised the subject and volunteered that they had a quota,” says Haden.

But he won't name names.

“I've had two All Blacks ring me up this morning and say they've had similar discussions and volunteered by Crusaders management at the time,” says Haden.

Todd Blackadder is lining up in support of Riack saying Haden's comments had brought the game into disrepute, hurt people and reputations, but Haden won't back down.

“Apologising for what? What would I apologise for? For having that opinion or having that discussion. Why would I apologise for that, that’s unfair to apologise for something that’s true,” says Haden.

“What about the term darkies, do you think that’s appropriate these days? I had no problem being called a honky or a whitey by guys I called a darkie and they don't care either. In your heart of hearts do you think that is a bad thing? “ says Haden.

Mihinarangi Forbes asks Haden: “So you're happy to use the term darkies? What about the term Horis or coconuts are they alright? 

“Used in the right context, in jest and without any malicious intent and that’s what racism should be about, there’s no malice in those sorts of things. I had a Maori from Crusaders call me up laughing his head off and agreed with everything I'd said. There you go a Maori whose played a lot of rugby for Canterbury.

The man who appointed Haden to the World Cup, Sports Minister Murray McCully wasn't fronting up, he left it to the Prime Minister John Key.

“No, I don't think it’s ok and I've asked the Sports Minister Mr McCully to find a path way forward with him,” say Mr Key.

“I've asked Mr McCully the Sports Minister or he’s told me he’s having a meeting with Mr Haden to find a way forward, say Mr Key.

Steve Tew says that Haden might not be the right person to be an ambassador for the World Cup.

“Is he the right person to be CEO of New Zealand Rugby if he has opinions like that?” says Haden.

The Greens and the Maori party are calling for him to stand down.

“I've always had an opinions this is just another one, no I don't think I’ll be resigning,” says Haden.

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10 Jul 2010 10:00a.m.

paul wrote:

I think that TV 3 has taken the whole statement the wrong way and has miss lead the readers and viewers. IF you really wanted an honest opinion than watch the whole show and make your own opinion. TV3 I think was after ratings rather than fact.

03 Jun 2010 02:19p.m.

brett wrote:

Lexi is my old mrs and i am really pleased she told her story it is really moving

01 Jun 2010 01:39p.m.

hey mate wrote:

I agree with geofrey tv3 website editors have some back bone.

01 Jun 2010 12:25p.m.

bill wrote:

I think Andy Haden is right there is double standards they call white people honky,cracker,that maori party gay he said the same sought of thing about the white but you did not do any thing he still got his job .So when the darkies call white people names it is fine but when the white say something they are hung out to dry.NO THERE ARE NO DOUBLE STANDARDS.

01 Jun 2010 10:12a.m.

geofrey wrote:

I'd just like to thank the TV3 website producers for choosing to publish comments critical of their reporting. It makes me as a viewer appreciate your station more for honouring the rights of viewers to speak freely.

01 Jun 2010 06:46a.m.

1/2 Cast wrote:

Haden say's in his day he had been called a honky and what not with his mates, yes that may be true but there is a difference. Him/you whoever hanging out with mates you would joke around like this calling each other names like hori, coconut, honky etc etc but that's just it. Your with mates and to them that would be ok and if it wasn't they would set you straight if they didn't like it BUT if you go on NATIONAL/INTERNATIONAL Television and say it's ok to call PI's coconuts, Darkies, Hori because it's out there what ever then yes there is a problem. I would love for Haden to go to America and call African American's Nigger's and then we'll see if that is ok. Oh and by the way not all Pacific Islanders are "DARKIES" and "SCARED" when the going gets tough!

31 May 2010 07:26p.m.

Lyn wrote:

They didn't sack Hone !so why is it ok for 1 and not the other they may have important roles in life but they are just human like everyone else, and that comment wasn't as affenceive as Hone! there are more important things to work on than calling names, come on we are not at school now.

31 May 2010 06:39p.m.

dean wrote:

funny thing is the moari party leader can say he should be sacked!!! Did they sack Hone?

31 May 2010 03:15p.m.

geofrey wrote:

The irony of this stupid video is that probably the only person in this interview that has more association and friendships with people from differing races is Andy Haden, when compared to the sanctimonious attitude of reporters such as Richard Langston sporting the grim look on his face as though some great injustice has occurred. Spare me.

30 May 2010 11:12p.m.

Lightseed wrote:

very funny story. reminds me of preschool. The reporter puts words in his mouth, would you call such and such a coconut etc etc, then goes and runs to the PM and others to tell them that he said what they put in his mouth. more bad reporting from tv3