Autism no excuse for crime but police need education - Autism NZ

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Tue, 23 Aug 2011 8:40a.m.

Christchurch looter Cornelius Arie Smith-Voorkamp has Aspergers Syndrome

Christchurch looter Cornelius Arie Smith-Voorkamp has Aspergers Syndrome

By Ally Mullord

Autism and Aspergers Syndrome shouldn’t be a reason for criminal offenders to avoid justice, Autism New Zealand says, but more education for police would help them manage autistic offenders appropriately.

Autism NZ chief executive Alison Molloy joined Firstline this morning to discuss police handling of incidents involving autism after charges were dropped against Christchurch looter Cornelius Arie Smith-Voorkamp, who has Aspergers.

Ms Molloy says if police were better trained to recognise the signs of autism and Aspergers they would be less likely to “respond in a way that exacerbates the situation rather than minimises it” when dealing with autistic offenders.

“[Autism] is not of itself an excuse for getting off a criminal offence - however it is a factor in how you respond to it.”

In high-pressure situations people affected by autism or Aspergers may respond differently to police expectations – something Ms Molloy says may have been a factor in the Christchurch looting case.

“The fact that Arie and his friend were in a place where they shouldn’t have been, you would imagine that the police would respond to that,” she says.

“If police… were more aware of the responses which would be different in a time of high stress for a person on the spectrum, then that would have helped the situation much better.”

She says training would enable police dealing with agitated people to recognise that “maybe this person is on the spectrum, and therefore the behaviour is as a result of high anxiety or high stress”. 

“A person… who is very, very anxious and physically agitated – the initial response might be to try and restrain them. With a person on the spectrum that might be exactly the wrong thing to do.”

However, she says police “were doing a very good job” in the high-pressure environment following the Christchurch quake, and autism doesn’t excuse criminal behaviour.

“I don’t believe that when somebody commits a crime for whatever reason, that there shouldn’t be consequences for that.”

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25 Aug 2011 06:32p.m.

J. Boyd wrote:

Two old light bulbs omg! what next.

25 Aug 2011 03:32p.m.

Rebecca wrote:

Anna, are you close to anyone with a mental disorder? I am suggesting you are not going by your quite heartless comments which btw were bordering on hysterical. Grow up please.

24 Aug 2011 10:22a.m.

Brett wrote:

Cloudwalker, what your talking about is another topic and you'll find some of those incidents are yet to be resolved and if its consensual sex then what's the problem especially when it's out of work hours! Some of those officers are no longer in the job or are in different areas of policing than where they were, demotion you might say.

No mental disorder should be an excuse to commit a crime. Imagine the people going to court saying i have a "compulsive thieving disorder" so i commit burglaries as i can't help myself.

If you can't control your disorder then you shouldn't be in the community until such time as you can control it.

The Police don't have time to mentally assess someone who is standing there threatening and showing body language to be potentially assaultive, naturally they'll place that person in handcuffs to stop a potential assualt from taking place in order to work in a safe environment (think of OSH policies for your work place).

The Police did right, they found two people IN A BUILDING in an area that was off limits who were STEALING.

23 Aug 2011 10:17p.m.

Cloudwalker wrote:

To all you people who think he should have been crucified,what are your thoughts on the policeman who got a $250.00 fine for doing a u-turn and killing someone,or policemen having group sex with 17year olds in police uniform,in a police house,or having sex with a 16year old on the bonnet of a police car,or policeman who shoots and kills an innocent person and is not charged and has his name suppressed and continues to play with guns,because if it is equal Justice for all that you are talking about,then where are your letters about police behaviour and culture,???

23 Aug 2011 04:44p.m.

jan wrote:

the police need educating. despite probably an arrest which was messy, it was what the police did after. hey and all you people out there that say he did the crime do the time and there shouldn't be any differences for people with special needs on the spectrum as one called it. Realise you aren't perfect. do you get drunk and abuse people, drop litter, speed, occassionaly use drugs?. these are all minor but you know better than that guy, you have full brain function. everything is not black and white. abortion, soldiers killing overseas, defending your family and you accidently kill, avoid paying fines, steal time from your employeer by having a longer lunch all these are crimes, minor but a crime. dont get all holier than thou, unless you are perfect and I doubt there is any out there like that. if he was your brother and this happened to him would you back him or throw him to the cops and never have anything to do with the criminal?. think people think!

23 Aug 2011 12:17p.m.

Gary wrote:

What the Police did to this man is unforgivable. That we condone violence of this kind, and we have, as I understand that the officers have not been made accountable, is especially heinous. How can any reasonable person have any respect for the Police if this is what they can do without consequences? How a society treats its most vulnerable is a measure of it's humanity. New Zealand was once a leader in this regard - now we have fallen to a point far beyond many of us could have imagined.

23 Aug 2011 12:07p.m.

Robbie wrote:

The police need no education. The public needs the education. Crime is crime. Every paedophile is sick in the head. This does not excuse their crime. There are 2 stages to crime punishment. 1st is the punishment. 2nd is rehabilitation. Unfortunately the public (opinion) confuses these and each group tends to focus on one part at the expense of the other. The police job is to bring every offender before the courts that should make the necessary judgments. Let’s first punish all crime. Then when the punishment is completed look at rehabilitation. It may well be that one or the other can not be satisfied in full. It is then that we must impose life time sentences, death, or some other sentence that protects society from the criminal.

23 Aug 2011 11:51a.m.

chisel wrote:

The police had to restrain a person who was using force. No compensation Cornelius, just quietly admit you were wrong and go on with life. If you hadn't been in the wrong place then it would never have happened. If you are not in control of your actions then ensure you are placed somewhere where you cannot cause damage.

23 Aug 2011 11:41a.m.

Neil wrote:

To Murray - he didn't actually realise he was doing wrong so one mistake, and secondly even the owners said he had not gone into their property, the police would only say he was in an area he shouldn't have been and didn't realise it - so no reason for some generalised argument about the mentally ill.

23 Aug 2011 11:35a.m.

Anna wrote:

What are police to do?? Yell out "Are you on the spectrum?" before arresting someone? How are they to know by LOOKING at someone that they may have ASD? Frankly, if the guy was standing over your bed, with a hammer - would you want the police to wait and ascertain if he was Autistic? Or would you want them to use reasonable force to arrest them?? Sorry, but I have no sympathy for him. He was stealing, they tried to arrest him, he resisted. Meh, actually, on 2nd thought - they should have just tasered them all without warning.