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Mon, 20 Sep 2010 9:13a.m.

A bill aimed at stripping all prison inmates of the right to vote has been drafted to do the opposite

A bill aimed at stripping all prison inmates of the right to vote has been drafted to do the opposite

By Maggie Tait

A bill aimed at stripping all prison inmates of the right to vote has been drafted to do the opposite and under it criminals like William Bell, Graeme Burton and Clayton Weatherston would be able to go to the polls, legal expert Andrew Geddis says.

National Party MP Paul Quinn's Electoral (Disqualification of Convicted Prisoners) Amendment Bill seeks to prevent all prisoners, even those inside for a short time, from voting.

Under current law prisoners serving a sentence of three years or more are disqualified.

The Human Rights Commission and other organisations condemned the bill during select committee consideration and breached the Bill of Rights.

One submitter said the bill should be changed to allow all prisoners to vote which left ACT MP David Garrett unimpressed.

"Do you believe that people like William Bell and Graeme Burton and those of that ilk should be voting on how the country is run?" he said at the time.

Now it turns out that changes to the bill may do just that.

The select committee has reported the bill back and by majority (National and ACT members) has said it should progress.

Otago University law faculty associate professor Geddis wrote on the Pundit website that the initial bill flowed out of knee-jerk get tough on time rhetoric and the committee did not explain its reasons for supporting it.

"But let's say you are the kind of person who takes it seriously. Clearly, three people who you believe shouldn't get to have a vote are William Bell, Graeme Burton and Clayton Weatherston.

"Well, guess what? If the law and order committee's recommendations to the House get passed into law, these three guys - as well as any other murderer, rapist or violent criminal currently serving a sentence of more than three years - will get to vote at the next election."

He said that was because the committee recommended repealing the current disqualification provision in the Electoral Act 1993, and replacing it with a different provision which actually removed the legislative provision that disqualified people presently serving lengthy prison sentences and instead only disqualified people sentenced to prison after the bill is enacted into law.

"So, there would be nothing in law to stop anyone imprisoned at the time the bill is enacted from applying to be registered to vote, and consequently casting a vote at the 2011 election.

"That's why I called the majority members of the Law and Order committee "dumb". They obviously don't understand what the effect of their recommended amendments would be. How could they have got it so wrong?"

Prof Geddis said the legislation should have gone to Parliament's Electoral Legislation Committee, rather than its law and order committee for consideration.

"The net result is that the law and order committee has just produced a completely nonsensical report, largely because didn't get any help from anyone who knows how our electoral laws actually work.

"So now, if the Government really wants to pass this measure into law, it will have to use a supplementary order paper to undo the total mess its own MPs have created.

"If the matter wasn't so important, it would be funny. But we're dealing with fundamental democratic rights here, so the fact this sort of complete cock-up happened reveals a disgraceful lack of care on the part of our lawmakers."

NZPA

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20 Sep 2010 05:07p.m.

Steve wrote:

No bloody way! The way it is going we would all be better off in the big house!

20 Sep 2010 04:20p.m.

Kat wrote:

As far as I am concerned these people don't deserve the PRIVILEGE of voting or any other privilege or rights.They broke the law, which means they had no compunction about violating other peaples rights.You don't hear about the The Human Rights Commision jumping up and down defending the victims of these criminals.

20 Sep 2010 03:01p.m.

Dianne wrote:

Wow if prisoners get the right to vote what privileges do they not have what a joke.!!!

20 Sep 2010 02:19p.m.

jan.. wrote:

Im sure the prisoners have always been on the vote list, Who is David Garrets compared with all the convicts were send to Australia by mother england for stealing a loaf of bread etc..
David Garret is a spy and a thief for over 26 years , a thief and a terrorist should be shot on the spot or return to the hole he come from, he will have no peace in this country until he is vanished, sorry Kelly..

20 Sep 2010 01:55p.m.

Veteran44 wrote:

These low lifes (and I include the idiot politicians drafting this bill), cannot obey the rule of law and civilised society, therefore they should not be eligible to vote on those principles.

20 Sep 2010 11:24a.m.

Ranger wrote:

I have grave concerns about the competency of this Government. They pretend to be centre right yet rightly or wrongly foist upon us the cost of bailing out leaky home owners, the investers in SCF, and the ridiculous global warning ETS scam tax. Now we are told they cant even get the intent of their legislation enacted. Big disappointment.

20 Sep 2010 10:51a.m.

Kelly wrote:

David Garrette has been judged for his paid experiment but He shouldn't leave parliment, He is a better MP than most.

Who are these unethical clowns that represent democracies history, all those nzers that spilt BLOOD for NZ democracy must think David Garettes a SAINT now?