Burger King worker stands by Facebook comments

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Wed, 09 Feb 2011 7:00a.m.

Julie Tyler, 27, says her comments were about "freedom of speech"

Julie Tyler, 27, says her comments were about "freedom of speech"

A Dunedin Burger King worker who kept her job and was instead given final warning after complaining about her job on Facebook says she stands by her comment that "real jobs don't underpay and overwork people like BK does".

The company held a private disciplinary meeting yesterday over the message posted by Julie Tyler, 27, which was brought to her manager's attention by another employee.

At the meeting her employers decided that rather than being sacked, she would be given a second final warning.

Ms Tyler was already on her final warning after receiving two previous complaints, including one for telling an abusive customer, "Like you need it".

Ms Tyler told the Otago Daily Times she was relieved to keep her job and stood by her comments saying it was about "freedom of speech".

Unite union campaign officer Joe Carolan told NZPA yesterday that Burger King's decision to give her a final warning over the Facebook comments would be appealed.

"We will be appealing for Julie because a company can't control what people think. The company doesn't have a right to control the opinions of its staff in a democracy," he told NZPA.

The union would take the issue to court if necessary as in the context of the low minimum wage rise yesterday, many workers might be feeling like this and should have a right to hold their own opinions, Mr Carolan said.

The minimum wage was raised 25 cents to $13 an hour yesterday.

Burger King spokeswoman Rachael Allison said Unite Union had chosen to single out one incident of Ms Tyler's conduct in order to draw attention to their cause.

NZPA

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15 Feb 2011 10:06p.m.

andrew tait wrote:

I can't believe how many people think an acceptable response to poor wages or conditions is to quit and find another job. No wonder we have so many people leaving for Australia. Julie likes her job and wants to keep it, but she would like it better if it were less stressful and better paid. She's making a positive difference, unlike the haters and wreckers who tell her she should just quit. Don't leave your job unless you leave it better than you found it.

10 Feb 2011 01:48a.m.

Theresa wrote:

@ricardo, finally someone speaking sense. This girl is seriously thick. If you choose to work in an apparent underpaid job that is YOUR problem. People saying she's brave and should be proud for speaking up are just sheep following the grass. I understand that she only meant to vent and such but she just seems idiotic; i mean, it's a public site. Personally i started working miminum wage and hell yeah i didnt like it but i found a better job. I didnt nag about it because im so unqualifed that i cant find better employment. Goodness sake child get a grip!

09 Feb 2011 09:59p.m.

jezzieann wrote:

why i wonder do we still feel the right to some kind of seperation between our lives online or "in the real world"? People seem to not be connected with reality to a large extent- why do people complain about unemployment rising yet raise the minumum wage.. is it too far sighted for them to see that when over 80% of our businesses in this country employ less than 5 people, that having the task of employing anyone more difficult or costly is not fundamentally going to change the current state... When you have situations where it is clear the employee is not a good fit for the role or organisation, then at the end of the day, is the employee or employer really going to be happier for having the work?? As an employee you represent your employers brand, they should be entitled to have some say in that surely?? makes me wonder if many of us really realise that in this day and age, when we change jobs as often as we do, that we are essentially all a brand ourselves... classic HR nightmare in that killer one liner from alex: " If you can't publicly criticize your bosses for fear that they will sack you then you are not free. "

09 Feb 2011 07:34p.m.

simon wrote:

im pretty sure there is no constitution in new zealand. and im pretty sure the hrc does not cover freedom of speech. im almost certain that bad mouthing your employer in a public forum is biting the hand that feeds you. no one has a "right" to a job you know. if my employer did something i didnt morally agree with i would leave. if they did something that i didnt like that was within the limits of the law, then theyre just running a business. i have free will. a free will that means i will work as hard as i like, for as long as i like, for what i agreed to be paid. i liked the bit in american beauty when he returned to flip burgers for minimum wage because he enjoyed it there. no care, no responsibility. julie is hot though. now THAT is a breach of human rights. to say someone is underpaid and overworked is passing comment. and thats fine. to slander a business is another thing entirely. god. what would i know. i need a drink bro. churr

09 Feb 2011 05:42p.m.

Ken wrote:

Those comments could easily be made over a couple of beers. Dobbed in by a workmate is not cool. BK should have just let it ride, had a chat about not making it so public and lived with freedom of speech.

09 Feb 2011 02:08p.m.

Amanda wrote:

Ricardo, go listen to it again. She said she enjoys her job. The comment was made as a general conversation as anyone could make after a days work. You only heard what you wanted to hear.

09 Feb 2011 01:53p.m.

Alex wrote:

Actually, it is about freedom of speech, Ricardo. If you can't publicly criticize your bosses for fear that they will sack you then you are not free. Not to stand up to intimidation (your solution) is cowardice. And it's very difficult to organize with your workmates around the country to improve your wages and conditions without being able to communicate freely.

09 Feb 2011 11:39a.m.

Ricardo wrote:

It's not freedom of speech - it's stupidity. If she doesn't like her job, then just quit. Publicly criticising her bosses or peers is just plain dumb.