Burton gets new leg worth $10,000 on ACC

16 Nov 2009 09:32a.m.

David wrote:

Obiwan, I have watched many of your responses to different stories.. you complain ALL the time as well.

Take your own advice please.. just because I argue for protection of the people and you argue for business, doesnt make you any less of a moaner.

16 Nov 2009 09:01a.m.

Alex wrote:

Graeme Burton can pay for his leg. He could fund it by selling his story to many tabloid magazines. Perhaps some will deign to read it

16 Nov 2009 08:56a.m.

Obiwan wrote:

David, Get a life - all you do is complain.
Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country!

15 Nov 2009 08:38p.m.

David wrote:

Obiwan, least we not forget the benfit cuts of the 90's whilst we were going through the golden times, the Building crisis caused by National.

Serious criminals deserve treatment, whether we like it or not.. the human rights act and disaabilities act are what seperate us from the animals.

People advocating that police should have had the right to kill burton are idiots, less than human.

And we havent come out of recession.. we were barely in it.. telecom and other companies have filed fairly large profits for the time of the recession.

Companies laid off staff not because they were suffering but because they wished to increase their profits.

We need to chose, either we are animals like Andrew and we start advocating fatal shootings or we believe in a persons ability to change and better themselves.

Advocating torture by limiting the help we give people whether they are in prison or not is animalistic at its very essence.

Thats the politics that are being enforced currently.

People need to read current news stories, just because overseas companies closed down and left NZ shores places like supermarkets have been raking in big profits for years.. even during the recession.

The recession is a convenient excuse for government to implement wage freezes... for pleabians, not for themselves or their allowances.

National has never been about the people, and never will be.. its a business party.
The party that cost homes owners 11.5 billion dollars in damages in the 90's.

15 Nov 2009 04:44p.m.

Obiwan wrote:

David - whilst I understand your anger and frustration, the issue is about a serious criminal getting the best of the best. You seem to be angry at National but the country is only just coming out of a recession. Previously, Labour enjoyed huge surpluses and what did they do for you? Only set up systems of PC at huge expense, taking away much needed money from the front line services. They are the biggest advocates of the ACC system, which clearly has not worked for you. That should tell you that may be others such as wolfman make a very good point!
Instead, you seem to want the best for criminals, claiming international law and Human Rights. Another area of huge cost to the nation and for what? So that criminals get the best of the best treatment? That is not helping your case - there is no such thing as a money tree. Money which goes to the PC brigade cannot go elsewhere. And an awful lot of money has gone to the PC brigade under the previous Labour Government. That left a huge mess to clean up..

15 Nov 2009 02:55p.m.

David wrote:

Lets not forget that National has cut help only to the needy.. all they have done to mainstreamers is take away the tax cuts that they promised.

National refuses to acknowledge that 25 percent of children in NZ live in a state of poverty and because of that poverty a larger proportion of this group are abused.

That the best our hospital system offers is doctors that have been struck off in other countries.. they refuse to acknowledge Dysautonomia as a traumatic injury, or that our doctors are one of the worst in the world at providing accurate diagnosis.

That those most in need have been the target of the National government since they came to power.. beneficiaries.. victims of violent crimes.

But when it comes to mainstreamers... if they yell loudly enough the government backs down on any cuts to entitlements.

National abandoned all semblence of support for mental health specialists when it introduced changes to ACC for victims of violent crimes by introducing an american standard of care.

In the past 3 decades hospital and disability support services were stripped from rural areas first and those cuts are now being made in main centres to save the government money.

Small schools in rural areas were shut down by both National and Labour in the last 3 decades as well.

The only petscan machine in our hospital systems is in private hands because of the governments lack of investment in public health.

Funding for health research focuses on common disease states, and funding for medications is exactly the same.
so those with less common ailments are paying hundreds of dollars just for meds.

If you are one of us that doesnt get support from government you get sick of hearing the arguments of bigots. like ACC levies are going up stop funding support for victims of violent crimes so that I can save on my levies.

When those levies are only to fully fund the workers account not the account that pays victims for support services.

15 Nov 2009 02:21p.m.

David wrote:

Yes Obiwan I know what its like to be disable, with PTSD, Generalised Dysautonomia, Myocolonus, Bronchiectasis, Severe bowel motility disorder.

I know first hand how dangerous our health system is and how we no longer have adequate disability support services.. but thats down to government picking on the down trodden because there is less of them than main streamers.

Hurt those with little voting power as a way to stay in power and mainstreamers are always the bigots.. believing that they have to right to say anything that they like.

Currently I face an ACC Psychological assessment because of the new rules brought into effect by national(scum bags).

I was raped repeatedly as a child, beaten, stabbed, poisoned.. all deliberately because my parents were nuts, however my father was The dishonourable Robert muldoons driver so welfare refused to intervene... even though the recorded evidence from my welfare records is enough to scare the crap out of anyone.

ACC refuses to acknowledge the physical injuries even though I have letters from nuerologists and gastro specialists stating quite clearly then my health issues are largely a physical result of multiple assaults and rapes.

People want to have an opinion, generally they will say it on here without repeating it in a public forum where they could be identified.

But victims of crimes get nothing from ACC, not a single thing. however people like Burton get everything.

What I have an issue with is people thinking that ACC screwed up and shouldnt have done it, but ignore that through the public health system he would have received the same level of help that he did via the ACC system.

Still would have cost the tax payer, but people like to complain about insignificant things, when the reality is even as a criminal he is entitled to the medical help he received.

And wolfman, your'e a bigot thats plain. you sound so much like key and brash stating that political correctness has gone too far.

14 Nov 2009 09:23p.m.

Craig wrote:

well what can i say apart from this is another show of ACC stupid ability to waste perfectly good tax payers money on a worthless scum bag !!!!! he doesn't deserve it and should be destined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life. Surely reality and common sence has to come in to the equation here. He gets a 10k leg while out public hospital waiting lists grow by the day. Burton you don't need a titanium leg just so you can sit on a seat in your cell (where you belong forever!!!). the only other mistake i see is the laws police had to abide by that protected him from getting fatally shot on his last rampage.

14 Nov 2009 05:26p.m.

Obiwan wrote:

David - I only observe and try not to judge - if you do not believe me that I have seen a law abiding citizen with a peg leg, or needy people, then you should open your eyes. I have worked with disabled people and know the struggle of getting the right care and medical support. Most often it is the very basics, not the best of the best. What do you think it has cost the tax payer to date about Burton's rights as you put it? How much in Police time over his glorified career? How much in legal aid? How much cost to the victims and their families? How much in medical treatment to save his life? And then you want the best of the best for a prosthesis? It is not about second rate treatment but adequate treatment. If you want the best possible treatment, then advocate the best treatment for the victims in the very first instance. You want to give Burton the best? That should be earned, not just given lightly, and certainly not without Justice and equality to the victims. In the case of Burton, it is highly unlikely that he will say thank you for looking after his interests - he will not even blink before pulling the trigger again - it could be anyboddy at the receiving end...you want to be supportive of that?

14 Nov 2009 05:06p.m.

wolfman wrote:

Yes David, people can say what they want about this, that's called Freedom of Speech, unlike what you PC nutters want.