When you are in the public eye be it a broadcaster or a sports star, the chances are you will get off scott free. Community Service is “scott free”. Until magistrates treat these violent crimes for what they are, these people will continue to leave life as “an invincible”!
Well well, I would never condone abuse at all. But In this case Im not convinced. She totally stalked him and in my beleif was a woman scorned. A man was convicted the other day on his 3rd offence for throwing a brick at his wife and she was hospitalised for weeks and has a permanent lazy eye and only got 200 hours community service....FAIR????Also when someone accuses a famous rugby league player of rape and they get off. Then later takes another man to court I find it vey hard to beleive its not a cry for attetion!!!
If a person shows true remorse for their bad deeds, they deserve to be given the opportunity to go on with their lives in the knowledge that the court of public opinion has forgiven you. Tony Veitch falls just short of this category. Look at his posture and listen to the aggression in his voice during this interview. He was still trying to make excuses. “If I reacted differently, if I had been allowed to walk away”. Next it will be “Dunne-Powells back walked into my foot”.
Cherie, Tony said one of the reasons he plead guilty was to save the ex going through the ordeal of the trial. So his answer did refer to her ordeal, don't know if that was the 1 interview or the 3 one. It would be hard I am sure you would agree to put a complete story out in a five minute interview.He screwed up, we all in our lives make mistakes. There will be no tougher judge then he himself on his actions.
Campbells interview was revealing. Kirsten impressed as a person who has suffered physical and mental anguish and come out the other side a better person. Veitch however, in his words, could not understand how he could be DRIVEN ...., and anyway - what more could he have done .... To Veitch the words of Dr Phil probably say it best - You cannot change what you do not acknowledge. You weren't driven, you chose. What more could you have done - acknowledge the problem and ask forgiveness would be a start (for your own sake).
Helena, no, demanding facts instead of the la la invented gibberish you posted is not supporting him. Yes you are a real problem in NZ, because you invent facts, which just leads to more problems. Thankfully in NZ the courts deal with the facts, as do the police, and not the make believe. Now this was a very high profile case and common sense would state that since no one else came forward there is no evidence of the la la you are presenting. And actually, as I said it is never alight for anyone to harm another, yet that is what you have tired to do, harm someone with your make believe theory that he has done it before. It sad when people like you make up facts. The kind of woman that reports rape that never happened, the kind of woman that reports abuse that never happens. It is a major problem in this country, and you have shown that you are capable of doing it rather than dealing in the facts of the case and inventing your own.
In the interview, a very tense, Tony tried to explain some of the details which made this whole thing so stressful for him. When asked repeatedly WHY he had pleaded guilty - none of his answers referred to Kristen's ordeal. He has said many of the right things; yes he did it, yes he's paid compensation, yes he's undergone counselling... but it's more what he's not saying that disturbs me. The impact on his victim has been overshadowed by this seeming 'persecution' by the media of him. A tell-tale sign of an abuser. Then his statement "If I had been ALLOWED to walk away" was chilling. As if she had so much control over him that night and wouldn't allow him to leave and get control of himself. In his heart he still believes that she, in part, is to blame for this. Yet another tell-tale sign of an abuser.True remorse would take full responsibility for actions without trying to lay any blame.True remorse cares more about the victim than the consequences to the perpetrator.I wish Tony could see the role model he is giving NZ. He may never again be a sports broadcaster - but it's still possible for him to be something even better. Someone who shows young, sometimes violent males the right way to change.
There is nothing worse than a woman spoutng off about "men" and how bad they are.I must be married to the only non violent man in NZ then and one who also does not beat his children."Man Haters" should not enter into any dicussion as people shut down and completey rubbish them when the "family violence" issue in the country is a very real fact of some peoples lives and needs to be sorted.
Tony Veitch did not bash his girlfriend, he simply kicked her. Unfortunately for both parties it broke her back. This is a serious injury and simple to inflict. This isn't simply a matter of man assaults woman, strong against weak etc. That means you are giving women an excuse to hit men and for the weak to hit the strong. All forms of assault are illegal. Tony has suffered alot more that he should have.Lets take the example of the common drunk who comes home 2 nights a week and bashes his partner, giving her bruises and making her extremely fearful. He does this over a prolonged period. He goes up on a domestic violence charge 5-6 months later and just gets ordered to keep away from her. Tony Veitch has suffered a hell of a lot more purely on the basis that this recieved tremendous media coverage. Should the media be prevented from covering cases to the extent that this case was covered? Well it is in the publics interest, but an unfair trial.John Cambell should have asked tony what his reaction was after he kicked her? Did he immediately go to her aid? Was he immediately sorry for what he had done? I believe tony is very remorsefull for what he has done. He is just managing to hold himself together. I just hope he gets his life together and i look forward to seeing him back on tele on a full-time basis. It is also great that kristen has also found another love, i am happy for her. Now it is time to forgive and forget and to support tony so this whole story can have a happy ending.
Allen,You really seem hellbent on defending this guy. Interesting... I must say i am surprised to read that you think I am the problem with NZ today. Hmmmm... Really?? I thought it was all the men beating the crap out of their spouses and children that were the problem?? Oooops seems i got that wrong! I'm simply expressing my opinion in the matter. And my opinion is that it's never ever OK to beat a woman, child or anyone weaker than you. But it seems that you believe there are exceptions to that rule. So i'd say people like you are the problem with NZ today. That's all i have to say to you Allen, however, i'm sure you'll be posting another little post soon accusing me of being a terrible and 'judgemental' person. Have fun!