Cardinal says atheists' theory "absurd"

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Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:00a.m.

A Vatican cardinal has said that the Catholic Church does not stand in the way of scientific realities like evolution, though he described as "absurd" the atheist notion that evolution proves there is no God.

Cardinal William Levada, head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reiterated church teaching about faith and science at the start of a Vatican-sponsored conference marking the 150th anniversary of Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species.

Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, Levada said the Vatican believed there was a "wide spectrum of room" for belief in both the scientific basis for evolution and faith in God the creator.

"We believe that however creation has come about and evolved, ultimately God is the creator of all things," he said.

He said that while the Vatican did not exclude any area of science, it did reject as "absurd" the atheist notion of biologist and author Richard Dawkins and others that evolution proves there is no God.

"Of course we think that's absurd and not at all proven," he said. "But other than that ... the Vatican has recognised that it doesn't stand in the way of scientific realities."

The Vatican under Pope Benedict XVI has been trying to stress its belief that there is no incompatibility between faith and reason, and the five-day conference at Rome's Pontifical Gregorian University is a key demonstration of its efforts to engage with the scientific community.

Church teaching holds that Catholicism and evolutionary theory are not necessarily at odds. But the Vatican's position became somewhat confused in recent years, in part because of a 2005 New York Times op-ed piece written by a close Benedict collaborator, Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn.

In the piece, Schoenborn seemed to reject traditional church teaching and back intelligent design, the view that life is too complex to have developed through evolution alone, and that a higher power has had a hand in changes among species over time.

Vatican officials later made clear they did not believe intelligent design was science and that teaching it alongside evolutionary theory in school classrooms only created confusion.

The evolution conference will explore intelligent design later this week, although not as science or theology but as a cultural phenomenon.

In his remarks, Levada referred to both Dawkins and the debate over teaching creationism in schools in the United States. He declined to pinpoint the Vatican's views, saying merely: "The Vatican listens and learns."
 
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11 Mar 2009 10:27a.m.

Jay wrote:

It is possible to beleve in god with out being involved in some group that think they have gods blessing. Many people beleve the pope is gods rep on earth... yea right.

06 Mar 2009 01:39p.m.

Hayden wrote:

Religion has had its chance, and its screwed it up time and again, I believe it will dry up and become largely non existant within the next century

05 Mar 2009 12:30p.m.

Brian wrote:

Darwin raised awareness then and the absolute proof of his scientific discoveries are confirmed again and again with even more discoveries that now lead to the only logical conclusion and debunks all religions that have belief in fictional scriptures. The concept of "Gods" were dreamed up to explain the then unexplainable. The misnomers BC and AD, is a concoction. Our calendar should start from about 4.5 Billion Years ago when Earth was formed, not created in 6 days ~ 8000 years ago as we are expected to believe with blind faith. As for the present myth being peddled by the RC's. That was a convenient story created by Constantine in 312 AD using this fictions time line, using "selected stories" that suited him to gain supremacy over the 30+ myths that predated so-called Christianity. From about 3000 BC there are so many myths of Virgin Birth, usually mid winter, (Northern Hemisphere) always 12 devotees, 30 years before the "blinding flash of faith" then after 3 years of impossible miracles then being killed off due to one of the "followers" accepting a bounty and (3 days later) ascending into heaven. The bible and all other religious meandering should be labeled "fiction" and consigned to that area in all libraries. Into "impossible fictions" would even be more accurate, if there were such a classification. An excellent "watch" is the movie than can be downloaded called, Zeitgeist.

05 Mar 2009 09:06a.m.

Alien wrote:

church has been covering up so much since it's money making venture was invented. The church is the reason that this world is so backwards and lacking a true connection to spirit. But the church realises it's time is now limited, even now holding public meetings trying to convince people that ET's are part of their god. yeah, go back to covering up child abuse, it is what the vatican is good at.

05 Mar 2009 05:03a.m.

J wrote:

Im sure when they said 'Kill em all and let God sort em out' they new what they were talking about!

04 Mar 2009 12:17p.m.

Jack wrote:

"The fact that God exists"???? Why don't you ask God holds a reporters conference personally to prove it, then that's what we called "fact".

04 Mar 2009 12:10p.m.

Jack wrote:

"The fact that God exists"???? Why don't you ask God holds a reporters conference personally to prove it, then that's what we called "fact".

04 Mar 2009 08:31a.m.

anita wrote:

didn't Darwin confese that some of his theorys were wrong. But for some reason we teach his ramblings as fact. However it does not matter what he wrote or thought. it will not change the fact that God exsists.