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Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:20
The Solicitor-General has announced he will appeal a court decision forcing the Government to pay parents who are the full time carers of their disabled adult children. - read full story »

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Shocked
23 Jan 2010 8:36p.m.

What you did Obiwan was try to discredit what someone who is intimately involved in this argument had to say on it.

The very arguments I used are the very arguments used on both sides.

We are talking about a system where government doesnt use family status as a means to descriminate.

What you are trying to do is bring rich and poor into it, I acknowledge that both get ill and can become disabled.

You fail to acknowledge that for a rich person it is far less traumatic because of their financial resources.
They dont have to stress as much as people within the system who dont know if they can afford their meds this week or to go to the doctors because they are on a Winz benefit.

What you fail to do is destinguish the added burden on someone with no financial resources.

What you try to do is suggest that I dont acknowledge the system has come a long way... well in some cases it really has not.

However my doctors refer to the ministry of health as a third world organisation... and yes I meant that in the Plural sense.

There is still one place where descrimination exists and that is within government and the debate is.. should it? just because the politicians reasoning is because its cheaper to have it that way.

My arguments were that government wouldnt change it because they have repeatedly and continually argued that it is cheaper to treat beneficiaries and their carers as sub human in order to save money.

I never failed to acknowledge that sickness happened everywhere, but to argue that both sides know all of its consequences ie, poor v rich.

I'd think most intelligent people would realise that there are more dire consequences for those without money.... like having to face government descrimination, not being able to buy medications or pay for heating, housing etc.

Or do you profess that the consequences of illness are the same for rich and poor? because I could give you the numbers of many doctors that would disagree.

Obiwan
23 Jan 2010 6:56p.m.

Hello shocked, thank you for your constructive comments. It is a pity that you fail to see what I actually wrote.

Shocked
23 Jan 2010 5:52p.m.

As a little aside Obiwan.. I know that illness happens to rich or poor... this campaign is about equity.. people who dont have money who therefore have to rely on government support but dont get it or are penalised for having any sort of relationship with a sick person.

Your'e a businessman obiwan... you are always going on about how tough running your business is.

Rich people who get sick have money to fall back on, we are talking... as is this story about people that dont have that.

you are most certainly a rightie from all the comments I have seen you make.

My partner gives up working fulltime so that she can help me attend meetings etc and gets no recognition or recompense for her sacrifices.

You know nothing about this argument obiwan or at least your words show that you have a very warped view on it.

Chris, yes people who look after the sick should get assistance... but that is currently not the case, if your partner or parent works or has an income from savings etc the person in receipt of the invalids benefit gets their benefit cut quite dramatically because Winz deems that the person caring for you also has the responsibility of paying all your bills as well.

And no, people like my partner who look after sick people... dont currently qualify for any assistance at all.

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