Carter vs Goff: 'Somebody had to do it'

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Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:30p.m.

Chris Carter and Phil Goff

Chris Carter and Phil Goff

By Jono Hutchison

Chris Carter says he'll be staying on in his electorate despite being suspended from the Labour caucus.

And according to some political commentators, that decision has got disaster written all over it for Labour.

The Te Atatu MP got the boot today after his boss Phil Goff discovered Mr Carter was responsible for an anonymous letter circulated to journalists which predicted a leadership challenge.

Read the letter in full here.

Mr Carter arrived in Auckland this afternoon with his own leader in his sights.

"Look, Phil Goff is a very nice guy, but he's just not going to win," Mr Carter told reporters.

A short time later Mr Goff announced Mr Carter was kicked out of caucus.

"Chris Carter has no future in a Labour Party I lead," Mr Goff said at a news conference.

Watch the full news conference here.

On Campbell Live tonight, Mr Carter defended his actions.

"The reason why I did it was I wanted to create a little snowball, which I hope will run down a hillside and become an avalanche and change the leadership," he told John Campbell. "Somebody had to do it."

Watch the full interview, including reaction from Mr Goff, here.

Mr Carter dismissed the suggestion that he should have been more up-front about questioning Mr Goff.

"That's not how it happens in politics. But actually, you know, if I'd been truly wanting to be anonymous, I'd never have written it myself.

"I'm glad it's come out; I sorta half-wanted it to, to be quite honest."

"This is getting into the realms of confessional politics," says political commentater Chris Trotter, "and I think in the end statements like that don't need a political analyst, full stop."

Mr Trotter says this is not how things normally happen in politics.

"I think Mr Carter really has lost his political senses. What happened today is pretty much without precedent in terms of its ham-fistedness, in terms of its look."

Mr Goff told Campbell Live that Mr Carter wasn't up-front when first confronted.

"He pretended that he hadn't even seen the letter. That was dishonest. When confronted he was forced to admit that he was author of it."

Mr Goff also denied the suggestion that his colleagues want a new leader.

"No, that's certainly not the case, and the fact that he acted alone and that his removal from the Labour caucus was unanimous I think is a clear indication of how the caucus felt of his actions."

Mr Carter says he won't be leaving his electorate of Te Atatu in Auckland.

"I'll be there as a Labour MP. If my Labour title has been officially removed from me, it will still stay with me," says Mr Carter, adding "I'll be supporting Labour 100 percent."

"This is not what they want to hear," says Mr Trotter.

"Short of shooting the man, what on earth can you do? It's got disaster printed all over it for Labour."

It's likely Labour will now go through the process of officially ousting Mr Carter from the party, but if he chooses to stay in his electorate they won't have a chance to get him out of Parliament until the election next year.

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30 Jul 2010 06:57p.m.

Craig Young wrote:

I would like to make it clear that many New Zealand gay community members do *not* share Chris Carter's low opinion of Phil Goff. This is an unwelcome distraction from the real issues- National's education policy failures, anti-worker industrial relations policies and sinister New Right welfare cutback proposals.

Mr Goff has my full support as Labour leader.

30 Jul 2010 08:19a.m.

Tom wrote:

Carter is right - Goff is a total looser and cannot win. The joke is there is no one else to take over as they are all loosers. Glad to see Labour self destructing again. Anything to stop them geting into power is a good thing. They ruined NZ previously. Labour and the Unions are just tossers.

30 Jul 2010 08:14a.m.

Mark wrote:

Carter is right. Goff is a weak leader. The really good thing however is see Labour self destructing again - we never want those socialist tossers to lead us again. They ruined NZ over the past 10 years - any one who votes for them must be mad. They cannot organise themselves without fighting themselves. The joke is there in no one else to take Goffs job as they are all useless.

30 Jul 2010 01:54a.m.

Jim wrote:

Although I detest the national party and their sell-NZ agenda, Phil Goff has to wake up and smell the coffee. He cannot win the next election. No way. NO WAY. Carter was right in suggesting that. Goff is not trusted, has no charisma, is not really liked by NZers. He is, as everyone knows, a pro-big brotherite.A change has to happen, and quick, otherwise a second term will happen for the nats, and terrible things will happen to the vulnerable in society. For the good of NZ, Goff should step aside!! A fight between him and Key, with the mainstream media on Key's side, is like a prime Tyson vs a wet paper bag.

30 Jul 2010 01:03a.m.

Maddy wrote:

Well, there go my hopes of a one-term National government. Thanks a lot, Labour, for imploding.

29 Jul 2010 11:46p.m.

Semisi wrote:

I think Chris should shut up and move forward, he spit the dummy because of his own fault,as alaways it's not my fault,it's the system and so on.Phil will go on and win the election, so good by MISTER???

29 Jul 2010 11:15p.m.

Graeme wrote:

Mr Goff comes across to me as a person that is saying to himself "I got lumbered with this job so I suppose I had better try and do the best I can" which does not bode well for Labour.