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Chris Carter is right - did I just say that? - Garner

Duncan Garner has to hand it to Carter - he is right about Labour and Goff Duncan Garner has to hand it to Carter - he is right about Labour and Goff
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 1:22p.m.

By Duncan Garner

I said a few years ago that the politician's default position is to lie. Helen Clark attacked me for it. I stood by it. I still do. 

Today once again I've proved right. Why? Because two months ago Chris Carter told me on camera, he's looking forward to serving as Foreign Minister under a Phil Goff led Government in 2011. That was obviously crap. He never meant it. It's what you say when you can't tell the truth.

But now he's been honest. He's told the full and unadulterated truth. And that's going to hurt Goff more than Carter.

Carter is toast. We all now know that. He will be expelled next weekend by the Labour Party. That's a given. This is the death rattle. This is the end of his career. He will end his time in Parliament next year as a lonely and unpopular independent MP with few friends. And he'll stay because he wants the money.

But he's thrown a series of hand grenades into the caucus and out amongst the voters by saying Goff can't win the next election.

And I don't disagree with him. Goff is up against it. NZ has only had two post-war one term Governments. They have both been Labour Governments. National is certainly on track to govern for another term. Why? Because Goff is stale, and unelectable as a Prime Minister. He's been around too long - 30 years at the next election. He's a nice guy. I know him well. I enjoy his company at times. He was my former lecturer in Auckland when I studied and he was doing time out of Parliament in the early ‘90s.

But Carter is right. Nice guys don't always win, and Carter is speaking the truth - as much as that hurts the Labour party. 

I have spoken to many Labour MPs privately over the past 18 months about Goff - few think he can win. Most say he will lead the party into the 2011 election and the change will be made immediately after Goff loses.

Carter's brain explosion is enormously damaging. Trevor Mallard's doing his usual Labour trick saying Carter's unbalanced - and whatever that means - he may be. Mallard has to say that - Labour has to minimise the damage done by Carter's comments.

Goff will remain leader until 2011 now. There's for certain. This failed, aborted and hopeless coup is not even deserving of the use of the word coup. A bunch of kids could have done a better job.

But Carter's idiotic approach and failed outburst will from now until the next election remind Labour voters that Goff can't do it. And what's worse - it's not me or some other journo saying it - it's someone from within.

Carter has cut Goff's throat in public. Labour will expel him next weekend. He has been disgraced. He will never be forgiven. But it's worse than that. He's taken the collective Labour Party out with him. Labour is now campaigning to come a respectable second in 2011 - and when you turn up everyday hoping to win - many will now be asking themselves - what's the bloody point of this?

David Cunliffe has eighteen months to become liked within the caucus and to get some numbers around him. But as one National Minister told me last night, if Cunliffe is the answer - then will Labour ever return to Government in the next decade?

Duncan Garner is the 3 News Political Editor based in Wellington. Here he offers his views and commentary on the developments of New Zealand's politics from within the Press Gallery.

 
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Comments [32]

David
20 Sep 2010 4:31p.m.

"Carter may have elements of Narcissistic personality disorder" My god Man thats a prerequisite for becoming a politician that and a degree in Butt covering and a masters in lying..!!

dave
19 Aug 2010 10:09a.m.

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Bobby2010
05 Aug 2010 10:13a.m.

Maybe Carter wanted the top Labour post. But his latest antics sure dont impress the caucus nor the public. In fact his sick leave is the nail that hammers his coffin !!!

RobertM
04 Aug 2010 1:50p.m.

I view Carter as having more reason. The labour left could not tolerate the outside possibility of Goff's victory running in the tailstream of Laws and Peters.
Goff is not really an impressive politician, he lacks the incisiveness in debate of a Muldoon, Lange or Abbot. You never feel that Goff is capable of a hard clean hit in parliament.Even Clark had a certain militancy running for power in l999 in 2005. In l999 I asked Clark a question at a public meeting about what she thought about Australian politicians and why woman hadn't made it to the top in Australian politics. Her arm slammed down like a meat cleaver and she said, " I didn't call them mongrels like Tau Henare, today and of course its much more difficult for Australian women politicians, I am friends with many of them and work closely with them."
I'd love to see the back of Goff because I don't think he's got the discipline and control in debate and policy as distinct from his person life. Cunliffe will be hillarious, to New Zealanders it will be mental health day for six months if Cunliffe gets the nod. Little could possible get in, in Carters seat and take over but he is too late and will no more than a Simon Crean. So Trev will probably have to lead in 2011 and 2014.

Gaz
04 Aug 2010 10:31a.m.

It has been pretty obvious, hasn't it, that ever since Goff was elected leader Labour knows he will never be PM and that he isn't a long term leader.

Why don't they roll him before the election, assuming they can find an alternative, and let that person go through a practice run in 2011 to battle harden them for the 2014 election?

Pointless Goff being rolled after the election for losing when everyone knows he is going to lose now.

Bobby2010
03 Aug 2010 6:28p.m.

It's amazing politicians can decide to be "unwell" lol

gary
03 Aug 2010 8:57a.m.

i find it hard to believe that mr carter acn continue to bludge off the tax payers of nz he would have to be the most expensive mp of all time ironic seem he is a labour man supposedly for the workers

jeremy
02 Aug 2010 4:51p.m.

You are wrong they will not expell Carter next weekend they will instead find a way for him to exit with some dignity.This is the way of EPMU Andrew Little.
They are much too weak to do what everybody in NZ knows should be done ie sack him he is completely and utterly incompetent

Craig Young
02 Aug 2010 4:28p.m.

It's sad that this had to come to this. I see Chris Carter is taking medical leave. However, he is completely on his own insofar as the NZ gay community goes. Most of us think Phil Goff was the model of forebearance and do not accept Chris' accusations of homophobia from the quarter of his former leader.
But no, this isn't the apocalypse for Labour, any more than Worthgate heralded it for National. The party will survive, rebuild and rejuvenate.

zinc
02 Aug 2010 12:52p.m.

Carter is half right - Goff can't lead Labour to victory in the next election. The full story is that it's highly unlikely that anyone else could either apart from the Lord himself whom, I suspect, won't be standing. Mr Nice Guy smiles and waves and says 'yes' a lot, and I doubt if the electorate will be sick of him soon enough to help Labour out next time round.

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