Cleaners to Key : Payrise now, or clean your own office

20 Feb 2010 01:38p.m.

R.A wrote:

If anyone is foolish enough to think that wages will get better for the working class, under a pasty faced National led Government has got to be dreaming . Catching up with Australia ,did they not tell you, it does not apply to you people. Remember the employment contracts act............ have you not heard Mr Key trout on about productivity, prepare yourselves because thats just around the corner ,and then you mugs will really know what you voted for .

19 Feb 2010 11:04p.m.

Des wrote:

ROlf @ key's cleaning his own office - but hey they are right. just asking for fear terms. lol

18 Feb 2010 10:12p.m.

Dan wrote:

It has begun Mr.Keys. Time to decide whether you wish to appease a handful or masses!

People we must find out what are our powers to remove this govt. from the chair, if they try to force stuff down our throats.

18 Feb 2010 07:24p.m.

steve wrote:

im with the cleaners two im a registerd nurse i consider the cleaners in our hospital the most important people of all , wed close with out them . im sick and tired of those on low income being told theres no money we cant afford it , yet when its the CEOs turn all we get is reasons why we have to give them massive pay rises . IF WE CAN AFFORD A TAX CUT FOR THE HIGHEST INCOME LEVIL WE CAN AFORD A 2$ AN HOUR PAY RISE FOR THE CLEANERS . GO THE CLEANERS .

18 Feb 2010 03:32p.m.

Bill wrote:

To Lightseed. You are an idiot. I came back to this Banana Republic after 25 years in Aust. I had a business, and could not believe the difference in prices here than in Aust for the same services. Where in Aust I could charge $15 for a product, here I could have charged $50 and not a thing said and would have been at the lower end of the amount charged. The cost of raw materials here is the same as in Aust, so you can't use that as an excuse either. By the way this was in the signwriting business, where the employees here get nothing like their counterparts in Aust. Just in that business I can tell you a lot of businesses have 700 - 1000% markup. So don't come the raw prawns about businesses not being able to afford it. But then you as the mouth piece for Key and his mates nothin surprises me what comes out of your mouth.

18 Feb 2010 03:20p.m.

Mark wrote:

Little bit of a hapless mutt arent you lightseed.

Minimum wage is set to go up in Australia from its current $14.31 per hour.

Meaning that the drain the Australians are already placing on our workforce is going to be even harder to deal with.

Its about $100.00 one way to Australia now, many of our minimum wage earners will be attracted to depart and earn an extra $2.00 an hour or $80.00 a week.

Where will business be if all minimum wage earners decide to chuck in their jobs and head across the ditch?

This means that business will have to try harder to attract people by raising the hourly rate that they offer.

Raising the minimum wage will lose 9800 jobs according to you and John Key right?.

Keeping it where it is willl likely lose us twice that to the Australian workforce.

Either business decides to provide enough incentive for these people to stick around or in the very near future it faces the real possibility of a worker shortage.

Stop watching parliamentary TV all day and actually think for yourself, there are two sides to every argument and John Keys are generally wrong.

Many minimum wage earners are taken on by big business, in places like retail supermarkets that have been gouging the market with out of the world price increases.

Or farmers who are already on their way to recording record returns from fontera again.

Either business decides to participate in an economic recovery and lower its profit margins or it will be struggling for decades to staff its own operations.

Afterall we are only talking about 10 percent of the workforce.

Those arguing that prices will rise, well yes business greed is out of control so the likelyhood is business will look to gouge us to make up for the loss in its profit margins.

But if they dont look to the long term, more than 9800 people will be heading across the ditch, afterall wages are better, but not only that.. housing and food are cheaper as well.

18 Feb 2010 12:25p.m.

Dave wrote:

I'm with the cleaners! They deserve more. But they had better watch their backs, there are now dozens of security staff wiht very little to do. They're pissing down our backs and laughing at us while they do it.

18 Feb 2010 09:22a.m.

Dan wrote:

This is just a start Mr.Keys. We all shall follow.

GO THE PARLIAMENTARY CLEANERS. You have the guts where the rest of us just sit on our arses discussing it.

18 Feb 2010 09:10a.m.

Lightseed wrote:

And Jan to increase min wage so rapidly would see a large amount of people lose their jobs and business. Accsux, the politicans and public servants don't set their own wages. as for the rest of your rant, not really worth reading, you seem a very angry person who needs help. don't go to first world countries like America where in many states the min wage is $5

18 Feb 2010 06:53a.m.

ACCSUX wrote:

Yea PUBLIC SERVANTS ,, SHOULD NEVER GET MORE THAN THE PUBLIC THEY SERVE...
AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CLEANERS..
BUT THATS WAT HAPPENS WHEN YA LET PUBLIC SERVANTS SET THERE OWN PAY..GREED...
GREED THAT STEALS OTHERS WAGES. IT CAUSES POVERTY.. AND CRIME ,, VIOLENCE AND CHILD MURDER..
tAXES AND RATES ARE SET ON THERE WAGES AND THERE CAPABILITY TO PAY ..
NOT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN..
PUT THESE SCUM ON THE AVERAGE WAGE,, AND RATES AND TAXES WILL FOLLOW SET TO THERE CAPABILITY TO PAY THEM ON $ 40 000 A YEAR. TOO


cLEARLY EVERY PERSON WHOM WORKS THE AVERAGE DAY / SHOULD BE GETTING THE AVERAGE WAGE.. IT IS THERE RIGHTS.
ANY LESS THAN THE AVERAGE AND YA NOT A WORKER ,, YOUR A SLAVE..

fOR GREEDY...DISCRIMINATING SCUM..

YEA THERE USED TO BE PEOPLE WHOM ACTUALLY BEAT AND RAPPED THERE WIVES ....
AS IT WAS LEGAL.. GET THAT..
BUT WE ALL KNOW THE KIND OF SH*T THESE PEOPLE ARE .THAT WOULD DO THAT..
SAME AS THE KIND OF SHIT THAT WOULD PAY LESS THAN THE AVERAGE WAGE TO ANYONE FOR THE AVERAGE DAYS WORK. AS ITS LEGAL.

YES AND THESE SCUM HAV THE SAME TYPE OF EXCUSES ,, AS TO WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE BE ALLOWED TO BEAT THERE WIVES.. CHILDREN
OR PAY SOMEONE LESS THAN THE AVERAGE WAGE OR ...
SCUM CAME UP WITH REASONS WHY WOMAN SHOULDN'T VOTE...
OR GAYS SHOULDN'T HAV THE SAME RIGHTS.
OR mAORI
ETC ETC ETC ..