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Thu, 11 Feb 2010 5:07p.m.

By Samantha Hayes

Leading scientists who have worked on the United Nations climate change reports have called for the body which produces them to be scrapped.

It comes after UN projections about the speed that glaciers were melting were found to be flawed.

The prestigious science journal Nature published the calls for change today.

Climate scientists have faced embarrassment after embarrassment in recent months. For example, Michael Mann was accused of tampering with climate data to produce his famous 'hockey stick' graph. He has since been cleared of any wrongdoing, but it's bad publicity like this, and the flawed prediction the Himalayan glaciers would totally melt by 2035, which has brought calls from the UN's own scientists to scrap the IPCC - the body which analyses the world's climate data.

"It was suggested that the IPCC should be disbanded completely," says Prof Glenn McGregor of Auckland University. "It's archaic, it's not fit for purpose."

A lead author from the 2001 report, Mike Hulme, says in journal Nature that, "The IPCC needs a complete overhaul. The structure and process are past their sell-by dates."

John Christy says, "Since 1992 I have served as an IPCC contributor and in 2001, as a lead author. My experience has left me of the firm conviction that the IPCC should be removed from UN oversight."

But New Zealand climate scientists, who have also worked on IPCC reports, disagree with the calls for change.

"I think there's no basis for scrapping it," says Dr Andy Reisinger. "You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and dismantle the bath as well - you just have to make sure you do what you're meant to do."

Sceptics say this latest backlash is evidence from within that the IPCC needs to be massively overhauled. But supporters say all that's needed are tighter checks and controls to improve the findings.

The next report is due out in 2014.

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Comments [10]

V
02 Mar 2010 8:08a.m.

I would like to think that with 36,000 Physicists and 42,000 Chemists condemning ClimateGAte and its non- Freedom of Information pact from one end of the world to the other, that the Big Banksters and corrupt politicians will have to drop the global Carbon Tax But I fear that with the IMF promoting a one world currency and Government, that we are all pawns in a game of corruption!. Its noticeable that countries that don't go along with this power grab are targeted as a object of fear and loathing. Now that Blair admitted that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and that Afghanistan's largest export of heroin is larger than it has ever been! the real reason for attacks on Greece, Ice-land, Iran is more about Money and power than anything else!.

Sam
28 Feb 2010 9:42a.m.

Yep climate change, the current price of oil, it's all a crock, to make us hard working people work harder get paid less and become slaves, the U.N is long passed it's use by date, New Zealand should pull out of the U.N leave it for the few rich nations trying to contol the world.I wonder what the Next Global scare will be, Aids no we have had that, Birdflu, no we have had that swineflu no we have had that, it will probably be a disease or some kind of tragedy but it won't be global warming. Probably Iran is going to nuke us all.

V
26 Feb 2010 7:39p.m.

Al Gore Is Lying Low -- for Good Reason No sign of Al maybe its the lawyers getting ready to sue him with RICO as his carbon house of cards falls taking all the fools who bet BIG on the fraud!.

anne
21 Feb 2010 7:20p.m.

At long last this story opens the pandora box of ultimate lies and deception on the population of the world in general that we are in iminent danger of a planet being destroyed,the true story is a fabrication that had to be invented in order for those who discovered a way to make billions from carbon credits, which may i say it originated from enron a company in america, and went global by clever promotion by Gore, the game is up, the truth is being told by those who can now speak up.

Glenn
16 Feb 2010 5:59p.m.

I see something crashing around in the dark, the shadowy silhouette of the former TV3 has woken, but alas its still struggling to find that illusive switch, without this illumination, it can not see the cockroach's flee from a total media annihilation, turn on the light TV3 rub those eyes and show us our next enemy

Jim
15 Feb 2010 4:52p.m.

It is simple really, get them to tell the truth for a change, the UN is the real joke for honouring a travelling sales rogue like Gore. As my mate David Bellamy said "It is a load of poppy cock"!!!

Fitzy
15 Feb 2010 10:40a.m.

Well, well. Now this story has legs. Samantha may want to cast her net wide and visit the Times online article, "World may not be warming, say scientists" - by Jonathan Leake. Imagine that? A main stream media outlet has bit the bullet, and started the oil tanker slow turn away from advocacy journalism, towards - "Graceful retreat", from an issue they were complicit in artificially hyping. The painful questions will surely arise in the months to come, when the blatant bias in most media outlets starts to fester, why didn't reporters ask the hard questions? Answers will range from - "We're not scientists" all the way up to "We were lied too." ...and its a get out of jail free card for the editors and subs. But what of history, will the BBC for example, not withstanding its dodgy management, leave some of its self-condemning articles online, rich fodder for the next generation of journalists to milk, showing how bias and advocacy corrupted the integrity of the media, along with market share and fear of unemployment. Fortunately - the skeptical amongst us have cached such articles, history will not be rewritten, by the dishonest. TV3 you have a chance here, to make a devastating mark on the NZ media landscape, effectively destroying the competition, by sternly and appropriately pursuing the truth about institutional bias in Climate science. This is your hour if you want it, I know amongst your peers, the desire to rip the lid off this is well past simmering point, sooner or later one of you will walk the talk. First up, best dressed.

V
14 Feb 2010 11:11p.m.

And so the worm turns, Phil Jones admits "Global Warming is not a man made phenomenon" But its the only thing I could think of at the time, NEVER mind the 10's of Millions of pounds in my pocket! Hubris pr*ck!.

V
14 Feb 2010 10:21a.m.

NIWA will have to put up now and expose themselves as part of the Control Grid. NIWA are a total disgrace to the science community in NZ!.

V
13 Feb 2010 9:48a.m.

Only vested interested control freaks care so they can justify the Carbon Trade rout. Unfortunately for them no amount of hysteria will work anymore. The Global Warming fraud is there for all to see!. Follow the money!.

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