what i need is a better guide to where to buy my fuel,perhaps a list of where to avoid, i certainly will be filling up at pak n save more often, they have the freshest fuel in town
We have a 2008 Hilux done just under 90,000km. Driving from qld - Vic the fule light came on, it had 3/4 tank full, manual said to pump the fuel pump and drain, light stayed on. Took it into Toyota dealer in Vic. Contaminated fuel, water in it, cost $7k - $10k to replace everything. Was told ours was the 8th hes seen this year, and the filters dont catch water well.We asked about toyota warranty (god knows why they fit these things in their expensive vehicles that dont do much besides look pretty, hmm, im sure they make alot more in replacement parts) We still dont know where we got water in the tank, its runs like shit and rattles like hell & now we have a $35k car under finance sitting in our garage, a useless heap. We wont ever buy another common rail diesel, THANKS TOYOTA, Hilux - Your unbreakable.
Apparently it was a seal which the injector seats into but had pushed through. (and its not going to cost. so things are looking up). Ive always filled up a regular servo. Its a shame these engines can't handle the nz climate, or even the slightest hint of water. Something still dosent seem right. It would be interesting to know which make and model of vehicles are having the most problems. I might sell the diesel and leave everyone else to work it out. goodluck.
I dont know why there is a problem with diesel vehicles i have been supplying & fuel additives to combat fuel contamination and oil additives for better fuel economy,try these products before you get to this stage of faulty fuel not when it happens clean out those farm fuel tanks and add this product no more problems
I need help!! I took my 2006hilux almost a year ago for a service&told the technician to check the turbo because on a warm engine startup it was missing,smoking& had no power until the smoke cleared. The results were one injector had no tolerance&another only half @ that i needed a new fuel system that wouldnt be a warranty claim because they also found a fuel bug. Note: after checking my service history I discovered the ute had done 130000km and toyota had never replaced the fuel filter. Because they claim it is a high span filter that only requires checking and cleaning.a I got some advice & told toyota to clean the fuel tank and system. I had to demand they replace the filter because they still thought it was not necessary. I put a fuel decomtaminator through the system then drove the vehicle for another 6months because i couldnt afford the repair bill. We then decided to replace all four injectors and the fuel pump and if it didnt fix the smoking and lack of power toyota would look at the initial problem. Even with the superseeded injectors it was starting to smoke more often on warm startup and i had no more power. Currently the vehicles in bits, it has oil in the glow plugs, the inlet and outlet to the turbo and all through the intercooler. The vehicle is still under warranty. I have to wait and see if toyota worms there way out of this one as well.
as far as the bug is concerned biocide fuel treatment kills it easy enough. then its a matter of filtering it out.farm tanks have (or should have) filters on the outlet.the actual fuel itself is no different to what you get at the gas station in town.dosing with a fuel additive is good preventive maintenance.however its also snake oil territory where many additives are untested and boast all sorts of claims. some can be down right damaging to fuel systems.it also increase the cost making diesels less economical.so just be aware of the issues if you think just throwing in a bit of additive to kill the bug, ad lube, increase cetane etc, you may be doing more harm than good.common rails (and some of the other high pressure injection systems) require good fuel. you can't get away with crap fuel like we have been doing.for eg, air being sucked into the fuel which is so common on some older motors its considered 'normal'. you cannot treat modern motors like the old ones.its simply an attitude that the fuel and auto industry has to lean.
This guy Wilson is speaking out of context. He needs to do more reasearch before he makes accusations like he has. I bet you this farmer with the Hilux was using his own fuel from his farm!!
Being the owner of an independant Service Station, a vehicle repair workshop & having trained as a diesel mechanic I feel qualified to making some comments.I have also been involved in studying this issue through a trade organisation for the last 6 months & so must make these corrections ... as I understand the subject.The issue has flaired up due to the common rail diesels in the likes of the late model Hilux being very susceptable to water damage. Although there is a lot of talk of the "bug" & I have no doubt the damage it will do will be equally serious, I think the issue here is mainly with water contamination. Where they have referred to engine failure in the article, it is actually the failure of the fuel system (pump & injector repairs) at a cost of between $10,000 to $15,000. I have been informed of 4 cases of late & each have had the water introduced via containers or farm type tanks.Although I agree with our Dog & Lemon man that people should consider seriously wether these diesels are for them, because all it takes over the life of the vehicle is 1 serious mechanical or fuel system failure & the economic gains go right out the window.My advice if you have or are going to buy a modern diesel, only fill from Service Station that have a reasonably high customer throughput (hence pump a lot of fuel). These sites tend to have regular large deliveries of fuel coming into the tanks & going back out, hence cutting down the likes of condensation contaminating the fuel.As a double check, ask the owner about their "water testing" regime ... at our sites all fuels are checked for water on a daily basis.Hope that helps .. happy motoring
Diesel Bug occurs from water and contaminates being allowed into the fuel system. As the distributor OF DE-BUG Decontamination units (referred to in this report) we are experts in diesel bug. Diesel Bug is not a new issue, our units were invented over 20 years ago. We have helped in cases of Fuel Tankers, Service station tanks, power and emergency generators, oil Rigs, NZ fire service vehicles, even the Interislander Lynx Ferry and over the last few years we have seen a marked increase in diesel bug overall, and a surprising increase in land based vehicles infected with diesel bug. It sounds simple; Keep water out and bug will not grow.However this is incredibly difficult to do, even a drop of water from condensation enables bug growth to occur. If you have a diesel appliance, fitting a fuel/water separator and also a DE-BUG unit would be a smart move BEFORE you have issues. Once fitted, due to the high rate of return of diesel back to the tank it is possible to sterlise your fuel tank of bug. Go to www.dieselsolutions.co.nz to find out more about diesel bug.
This guy David must have been in the closet for the past 2 years or is getting paid by the fuel companies.