Currie too haka-happy – Val Adams

8/11/2012 8:54:44 a.m.

Tray wrote:

I don't blame Valerie being pissed off. Even a kapa haka group wouldn't do a haka at that time of the morning. Currie was stupid and culturally insensitive. There is a time and place of when to do a performance.

5/11/2012 11:25:59 a.m.

Emere wrote:

I've actually just finished reading the book. I've got to agree with her about the timing of the haka, early in the morning where other athletes where sleeping, getting ready for there events. But i think thats all she really need to say. To go and say i quote. I felt like saying, 'Look, I really admire our culture, i admire and appreciate the Maori culture, but we're not all Maori. We respect it, but don't try to ram it down our throat's.' 10 steps back for Maori. And go on to say...'I was born in New Zealand, and I'm proud of that fact. I love my country, and I love representing it. But I'm actually Tongan, not Maoti. There's a big difference. I think theres an underlying issue here. Is it really about the haka??

30/10/2012 1:39:34 a.m.

KERE23 wrote:

Understand where your coming from MIKE and yes we do have a wide range of cultures now in NZ, however reality is NZ sports teams etc will always use the Haka as it is unique and indigenous only to NZ. No where else. You will never see a NZ Sports team or group doing English Morris dancing or Irish jigs or Tongan Sipi Tau etc. I think the Haka is being consistently abused by overkill and inappropriate impromptu decision makers who have no right to perform it under the state that they do it (drunk, incorrectly and disorderly)It is wrong, culturally insensitive and disgraceful. This is NOT pushed or ever forced upon by Maori...rather it is from the white rich sponsors, suck up sports committees and government officials that love to "show off" our native culture with "tongues protruding"! If it was up to me I would cease it forthwith until one attains the standard required to perform it and without the influence of alcohol (it was public knowledge that those athletes that performed at 2.am in the morning had been drinking) Haka and Alcohol quite simply do not mix...ever. It tarnishes our sense of good sportsmanship and integrity if all it is used for is to be "show offs" to all the world to see. When Haka is taught and performed correctly, with pride, passion, honestly and appropriately to suit the occasion then we are on the correct path. A perfect example of that was just shown last weekend from the community of Ruatoria at the Meads Cup Rugby Final. That was appropriate, performed magnificently and without flogging a dead horse!

29/10/2012 6:33:52 p.m.

Mike wrote:

Its time all NZ cultural heritedge is respected, not just one race within that. The pushing one race ahead of all others in all things is an embarrassment.

If Maori would put as much effort into other achievement vs cultural they could achieve much more. It doesn't require they throw out thier culture, but for them to focus more on other things, including tolleration of other cultures.

Adams is a NZr of Tongan descent. Respect that. If going to push a culture in celebration of her sucess, how about getting the race correct, and make a Tongan cultural display! When anything happens, we get one one culture shoved down our throats when NZ is multicultural.

We also need to respect people more. Any performance at 2am is inappropriate. I wouldn't want anyone coming calling at 2am. If want to celebrate something, chose an appropriate time of the day, and this is not 2am.

29/10/2012 1:49:51 p.m.

bill and ben wrote:

Ive gotta agree with kere23. it is embarrassing.
the huka use to be special but now it is done at the drop of a hat and it make me cringe when I see drunk white boys do it and it has nothing to do with pride at being a new Zealander but to show off.
I’ve been overseas and seen people do the huka in inappropriate places like on the London underground and it intrudes on others around them. Ive been in japan and seen 5 guys do the huka in the street and i had to walk away. I didn’t want to be tarred with the same brush. People think it insulting to see Muslim women wearing burkers in new Zealand and it is the same when kiwis do something that is inappropriate to local customs.
When the All Blacks do the huka it is part of the tradition of international rugby and something that they are privileged to do.

29/10/2012 10:05:04 a.m.

KERE23 wrote:

This is the very reason you dont let a person like Currie who is culturally inadequate and irresponsible to decide on Maori issues...actually this type of "flashy show off" activity is rampant and needs to cease. I agree it's an embarrassment done by novice white drunken amateurs (shame). And yes the NZ Games Committee do love shoving it down athletes throats! There is a time and place for Haka and the overkill showoff types are not what the athletes should be doing especially under the influence of alcohol. It is disgraceful and embarrassing to Ngati Toa Iwi and Maoridom. For God sake at least teach them properly like what the NZRFU have taken on board.

29/10/2012 7:32:37 a.m.

dave wrote:

Val has just gone up 100% i my opinion GO VAL

28/10/2012 10:40:58 p.m.

Craig wrote:

Anything to flog the book.