Detective talks of deadly new drugs

21/01/2011 2:04:49 p.m.

JBS wrote:

According to the piece, even though the drugs currently are not illegal the police warn that charges may be laid retroactively. Hmm, it would be nice for big brother if that were possible, but I guess as long as there is a bill of rights in NZ (in particular section 26) that won't be happening. Maybe the police (and the journalist) need to do some fact checking, or say what they really mean by this.

21/01/2011 10:33:21 a.m.

stuart wrote:

brett i think your mistaken, i beleive alot of drug users would like to be educated about drugs just not the BS they get feed here and in 90% of other countrys if they told the truth it would sound like: if you take mdma you will have a fun couple of hours your anger/hate will go away everyone will be best friends. NO your not going to die from taking pure mdma, it wont damage your brain.... its a safe drugs they use to prescribe it to couples having marriage troubles and was found to be very effective, untill it got bannec

21/01/2011 1:09:57 a.m.

Hoochie wrote:

ewwwwww "BIG BAD DRUGS"
and when are they going to criminalize ALCOHOL which
is the most VILE DESTRUCTIVE drug of all!?

20/01/2011 11:02:29 p.m.

Brett wrote:

NW... to have written all of that i think your whacked on ecstacy yourself!

News flash... Police don't make the laws... Politicians do!

People who take drugs don't really want to listen to education about the dangers... they just want the buzz!

Look at all the underage kids who get pregnant... there educated about safe sex, yet how many each year get pregnant!

20/01/2011 8:51:44 p.m.

NW wrote:

Let me get this straight: because relatively safe drugs like MDMA are illegal (and are therefore effectively unregulated with no quality control standards) and are unavailable, new legal drugs (with no quality control standards either) that *may* not be so safe (remembering that the police are obliged to make *any* psychoactive drug apart from alcohol sound dangerous under government policy) are now available. If that's not bad enough, the police can sieze these legal chemicals, and then have the law changed so as to press charges,and no doubt sieze the "guilty" party's assets for their mates in (Meth)Con and the like to run their BS propaganda campaigns. This is equivalent to setting speed cameras to snap everyone going over 80km/h, then dropping the speed limit to 80km/h and retroactively prosecuting everyone going over 80! Beware NZ, we are living in an increasingly fascist society. Once police power is absolute, absolute corruption is the inevitable result, as greedy, self-interested individuals are drawn to a career in which they are effectively untouchable, and can confiscate the property of anyone they even *suspect* of drug "crimes" - no evidence whatsoever required. The only way reduce the hrm done by any psychoactive drugs is to have them regulated and restricted in a manner that enables users to know exactly what they are getting, as well as being educated to the REAL risks of taking them, including the state of mind and surroundings in which adverse reactions may occur, as well as indicators for at-risk individuals. The current prohibition laws have the opposite effect, and are responsible for much of the "costs" of drugs that are trotted out by the police (and politicians) as an excuse for wasting thousands of police hours in fighting these "crimes". I had to laugh at the officer trying not to make cannabis sound safe - in the end he just stopped mid-sentence and changed the subject! If going to the BDO, make some cannabis cookies and fly safe!

20/01/2011 6:43:40 p.m.

bukster wrote:

The problem with police, so called 'education' about the dangers of drugs that that what they present as the 'facts' is so hysterically exaggerated that when the police try to educate us about drugs that are actually dangerous, nobody listens. I don't have a clue what's in these damn pills and I sure aren't going to try them. I know the police and media like to wildly overstate the dangers of drugs. However, this might be one of the times we should be paying attention.

20/01/2011 6:15:46 p.m.

Stuart wrote:

maybe if they just decriminalized mdma there wouldn't be this problem, monitor who sells its and how much a dose is... its could be a good clean safe drug and you WILL no what you are taking. Im not saying legalize every drug out there just mdma, you never know what your getting when you buy a pill unlike meth, cannabis etc.. it would make it awhole lot more safer. maybe one day when our government starts being so ignorant