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'Dead easy' to unmask Wilce - consultant

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Thu, 09 Sep 2010 4:20a.m.

Stephen Wilce

Stephen Wilce

A business consultant says it was ‘drop dead easy’ to unearth the truth about a senior Defence Force official who has been unmasked as a CV liar and cheat.

Stephen Wilce was the centre of a 60 Minutes investigation, which aired last night.

For the last five years he has been privy to the most sensitive of defence information in his job as the Director of New Zealand’s Defence Technology Agency.

Mr Wilce’s role comes with the highest levels of security clearance, but it is a job he was given on the basis of a string of lies, many of which were on his CV.

Steve Saunders interviewed Mr Wilce for a job in the 1990s and discovered he was telling lies back then.

 He says he has never seen anything like some of the lies that Mr Wilce told him.

“This was very much at the high end of the scale. In fact, he is the top of my scale.”

 With little difficulty he found out the truth about some of Mr Wilce’s claims.

“Drop dead easy. Takes a bit of time, a few phone calls.”

“It wasn’t difficult for me. I did it at the time and I’m a small show and I took it upon myself to pick up the phone. Because of the calibre and level of appointment I took it upon myself to do those phone calls and talk like that to the person concerned rather than trust it with someone to do that standard reference check.”

Mr Saunders believes Mr Wilce should not have his job.

“Our defence force has a very proud record. The defence personnel are of the highest standing they’re good people, integrity, honesty characteristics and anyone who’s in a leadership position should be squeaky clean in my view. So if I’d been asked to recommend him for employment for the military the answer would have been an emphatic, ‘no’. “

Mr Wilce is a Briton who has been in New Zealand and Australia since 1993, his Government role earns him $250,000 a year.

The 80-person agency he heads provides scientific advice to the military on things such as weapons systems.

From his Devonport base, all recommendations on defence technology and upgrades go through Mr Wilce.

As Chief Defence Scientist, he reports directly to the Chief of Defence.

Former Defence Technology Agency scientist Chris Reid says it is important that the person that holds that position is beyond reproach.

“Well it’s incredibly important because this is pretty high level stuff and it’s also very important that there’s good personal relationships and a high level of credibility between, for example, our TTCP principle and … the US. So there needs to be a lot of trust there and a lot of credibility in order to freely facilitate the cooperation in those areas.”

Mr Reid says Mr Wilce is not capable of doing the job.

“If we want to have good relationships with our allies and have trust on … sensitive matters like defence technology, that has a material effect on the capability of our defence forces, I think it’s self evident that it’s very important that we have trust between ourselves and other countries and internally, that we actually have a chief defence scientist that’s capable of doing the job.”

Last night it was unveiled that Mr Wilce has claimed to have been a member of the British Olympic bobsleigh team in the 1980s. No one from the team or the British Bobsleigh Association has ever heard of him.

Despite his claims to have been a Royal Marine, no record of him ever having been so exists. No evidence supports his claims to have been decorated in battle either.

Immediately before rising to his current job leading 80 people, he was chief executive of a small Australian housing company in charge of about 10 people. They jokingly called him a rocket scientist because of what he’d told them about his past.

Watch the full 60 Minutes investigation.

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10 Sep 2010 03:22p.m.

Brendon O'Connor wrote:

The bigger question might be how many more like him are still employed at Defence?

10 Sep 2010 02:03p.m.

Keruru wrote:

Seems to be staggering Armed Forces senior management incompetence matching that of Wilce himself. Perhaps the Secretary of Defence at the time is the person ultimately responsible for signing off on Wilce's appointment after being satisfied it was kosher.

10 Sep 2010 10:20a.m.

george wrote:

Gotta go with Colin on this one,Lazy incompetence.Be very interesting to see what happens to the clowns who were responsible for hiring him.

10 Sep 2010 08:40a.m.

Jim wrote:

Mr "Consultant" (whoever you are)
You are a Noah (know it all)with 20/20 hindsight. If you were so good how did he ellude you for so long ... huh
Interesting point on the captains "boatie" ... it seems really over the top.
"JD" ... I like your point on his idiotic purchases!!!

09 Sep 2010 11:30p.m.

boatie wrote:

Colin you are so right,The NZDF and the navy in particular need to clean their act up . Why does the RNZN have 55 captains when we only have 9 ships ??

09 Sep 2010 08:33p.m.

Brian wrote:

Well done, TV3. This reveals amazing carelessness at various levels, (as with the Maori TV fiasco) . Is not the State Services Commissioner personally responsible for the hiring procedures for such high-level Crown (not military officer) appointments?
The credentials and achievements of a claimed scientist are so easy to check. Scientists write books and scientific papers, do articles for magazines, give talks at conferences, are on committees in their speciality, tutor at universities, are members of professional associations, are granted patents etc - these activities leave large paper trails,even for defence scientists. Plus, by Wilce's age they will have achieved a definite reputation among colleagues in their fields.

Why on Earth does none of this seem to have been checked into.

Heads must roll for this incompetence concerning the country's defence and finances.

09 Sep 2010 06:13p.m.

JohnC wrote:

The news media is going on about security clearances. That is a red herring. He might pass clearance for security. The checks aren't comprehensive. But he should never have got the job in the first place, an entirely separate matter. Was he recruited by the same agency that acted for Maori TV, by any chance?

09 Sep 2010 05:16p.m.

Colin wrote:

This is laziness and total incompetence on the part of Senior Naval Officer's who just go through the motions over the years and are actomatically promoted!

09 Sep 2010 02:52p.m.

Nicky W wrote:

This go is a complete douche bag. Get rid of him. Dangerous. Phil Geoff is too soft to have hired him in the first place.

09 Sep 2010 01:29p.m.

Dan wrote:

Shame on the govt's defence HR department for not detecting this sham artist. Imagine a conman like him holding such a big position could jeopardise the security and safety of the entire nation. This also means any tom, dick and harry can become a defence scientist.