Deaf MP warns of dangerous precedent

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Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:47a.m.

Green MP Mojo Mathers

Green MP Mojo Mathers

By 3 News online staff with NZN

Deaf MP Mojo Mathers warns that being forced to pay for note-takers so she can participate in parliamentary proceedings will set a dangerous precedent.

The Green MP, who is the country's first profoundly deaf MP, will make her maiden speech on Wednesday, with sign language translators in the debating chamber to mark the event.

Meanwhile, the battle continues over who should pay for note-takers to assist Ms Mathers follow speeches and debates, after Speaker Lockwood Smith said the staff must be funded from Ms Mathers' staff budget.

Ms Mathers says it's unfair that she should have to pay the estimated $30,000 cost.

"At the moment, the parliament service pays for support of the other members of parliament in the house - things like Maori translation, there is the sound system - some of which I cannot use," she told Radio New Zealand.

"Because I am the first person with a profound hearing impairment, they're seeing this as an individual issue, but it's not.

"It's about the right of all members to participate in the house and be supported by parliament to do that."

Ms Mathers says she won't be able to do her constituency work effectively if she has to spend her budget on participating in the house.

"We shouldn't be having to make these kinds of choices," she said.

"There will be more hearing-impaired and deaf people [coming] into parliament, there will be other disabled people with specific needs go into parliament.

"This is the future - it is becoming more representative of New Zealand."

Dr Smith says he is unable to allocate extra money from existing budget appropriations but will meet with the parliamentary service commission in March to discuss the issue.

Ms Mathers wants that meeting brought forward and the matter resolved urgently.

Green Party co-leader Dr Russel Norman spoke to Firstline this morning, saying that this is the first time since Mrs Mathers’ election the party and Parliamentary Services have not seen eye-to-eye.

“We’ve worked with them since the election and they’ve been pretty good, so we’ve made some progress, but the outstanding issue is the labour cost if you like of the transcriber, so they’re saying they won’t pay for that, we’re saying that it’s actually just part of Mojo doing her job like any other MP,” he says.

“We’re happy to pick up the cost when Mojo’s in the Green Party offices or something like that, we don’t expect Parliament to pick up that cost, but the cost when she’s in the chamber and Select Committee we do expect Parliament to pick up. This will go to a further series of meetings and I’m sure eventually we’ll see our way through it.”

The digital service is not the end of the issue though, with Dr Norman revealing there are works afoot to ensure all Parliamentary debates are accessible for the hearing impaired.

“This is a little bit of an interim measure, in the long run where this is going is towards live captioning of Parliament, which will benefit not just Mojo but everyone who’s watching Parliament who’s hearing impaired,” he says.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters quickly offered up $6,000 of his party’s staff budget to help the Greens, but Dr Norman says he is uncomfortable accepting the money.

“We haven’t thought about if we’ll accept others, we’ll certainly make sure it happens, part of it is I don’t like the charity model, if you’re a disabled person there’s nothing worse than having to put your hat around all the time and get charity from everyone just to do your job.

“I think it’s a very generous offer […] but it’s much more important that we get the principle right, deaf people have a right to be in Parliament,” he says.

And the Greens co-leader says Mrs Mathers’ is just the latest in a long line of New Zealanders who have enforced a change in society.

“Mojo’s just breaking through a barrier, there’s all sorts of barriers that different groups that have been discriminated over the last 100 years have faced, whether they’re women or Maori or whatever,” he says.

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15 Feb 2012 01:23p.m.

Mike wrote:

More expenses for NZ to pay for.

Not only does the mp need a translator, but if she decides to 'sign' her way through anything everyone will need a translator. And if given a chance, being a Green MP - she will sign her way through speeches just to be difficult.

Greens put the MP in this position, greens should pay for the added expense. Already she has 80 hours a week support but doesn't want to reach into her own support package to cover this expense.

On top of this it wont be just a translator to convert english into sign. it will be English -> Sign, Maori -> Sign, Sign to English, Sign to Maori, to go with Maori to English (as every Maori speaker in Parliment understands English).

The $30,000 estimated cost is the tip of the iceberg. Take the total parlimentry translator cost now, multiply it by about 5, and thats what the greens want to cost NZ.

We have over 120 MP's and if they each have $30,000 + given to them to cover 'added expenses' thats over $3.6 mil. Between the MP's support packages, the Parties NZ funding, and the MP's salary there is already plenty of money out there without NZ coughing up even more.

15 Feb 2012 01:09p.m.

Ernst wrote:

Why persist with this "First Deaf MP" reporting? Act's Gerry Eckhoff was extremely deaf and preceded Mojo in Parliament. It seems he made do with what was available at the time and didn't make a fuss about it. This is typical Green Party attention seeking. They are all list MPs and a waste of space.

15 Feb 2012 11:58a.m.

Tony Musgrove wrote:

Sorry, I dont buy into this.
Mojo is a List MP, a volunterer - not elected.
Both she and her party should have been under no illusions of the challenges she faced entering as an MP.
She will have faced challenges greater than this all her life - for mine this is simply political shenanegans by both her and her Party.
From which Governemnt program would she like the expenditure deducted? - presumably from the Health budget.
Stop the silly games, do your homework and contribute positively.

15 Feb 2012 11:43a.m.

JasonJ wrote:

The gravy chain is on the move - gimme gimme gimme.
The Greens need to contribute some funds to this issue!