Dean Beck: Quake 'not an act of God'
Fri, 25 Feb 2011 8:17a.m.
By James Murray
Dean of the destroyed Christchurch Cathedral Peter Beck says the Christchurch earthquake was "not an act of God" – it just "the Earth doing what it does".
He says he was feeling much the same as everyone else in Christchurch after the quake.
He and his wife had been distributing water around their community.
He praised people who were out supporting people in their communities, saying it was tough knowing that people could be without power for a long time.
"People were trying to do the best they can to help other people live as normally as possible," he says.
The stability of life had been affected, but the clergy would always be available for support.
"You lot, make sure you've got your dog collars on," he says.
Dean Beck is the patron of Cancern, a grassroots community group set up after the last earthquake. The group advises authorities on what communities need and in what areas.
They will be having a briefing every couple of days with Civil Defence.
Dean Beck said his belief of God was not shaken by the quake - which was not an act of God.
"For me as a Christian, the act of God is in the love and compassion that people are sharing among each other.
"You know... they call it the Canterbury spirit. The Canterbury spirit in a sense is the human spirit at its very best. You often see that in the worst of times the human spirit is at its very best."
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5/03/2011 3:57:53 p.m.
Can we agree that these kinds of disasters are natural acts. God is busy deciding if we will live forever on a cloud couch listening the sounds of harps.
25/02/2011 2:29:10 p.m.
Dan Greenfield wrote:
By definition, 'God' is all-powerful and nothing can happen without his will. The fact that it did happen must mean that it was his will. What reason he had simply escapes my understanding, but it hasn't stopped my belief in him. I guess we all die in the end, so it's up to him when it happens, and for some it happens sooner rather than later, perhaps to teach the rest of us how to love, something that gets overlooked a lot in this seemingly uncaring world where money comes first. I believe in the afterlife (another attribute of an all-loving God) so I don't believe that any of us really die. As to whether God exists or not, just ask those who have lost everything. For some, God is the only one they can turn to to heal their hurt. Material possessions can be regained, especially when others care enough to give to them, but the loss of a loved one can cause severe pain that only God can heal.
25/02/2011 2:19:56 p.m.
25/02/2011 12:31:33 p.m.
Umm. How does that work?
God is either omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, (all powerful, present everywhere, and all knowing) or it's not, if it is, and didn't do anything, well, that's pretty rubbish really isn't it, and if it's not, then it's not God. Even if we said "God just set it [the earth, universe, something] in motion", then it still set in motion an earth that is unstable and frequently causes massive loss of life in cruel and unusual ways AND by virtue of being the three omni's sits and watches it happen doing nothing to stop it.
THAT IS MESSED UP!
To quote from "The Invention of Lying"
OK. Number 9. The man in the sky who controls everything decides if you go to the good place or the bad place. He also decides who lives and who dies.
-Does he cause natural disasters?
-Did he cause my mom to get cancer?
-Did he cause that tree to land on my car last week?
-Did he kill my dad with that heart attack?
Crowd is stunned, looks around at each other, and then a fellow booms
-“I say ##### the man that lives in the sky!”
25/02/2011 11:19:21 a.m.
"not an act of God" – it just "the Earth doing what it does".
Yet if he had a close near death experience he'd claim god saved him.
25/02/2011 10:58:02 a.m.
God could have prevented the earthquake, but he didn't.
25/02/2011 10:50:45 a.m.
Well, not sure about that. But god definitely didn't protect those in the church, that's what I know for sure.
25/02/2011 10:47:11 a.m.
What an idiot. God created the universe but can't control 'what the earth does"? Hypocrites trying to patch up holes.
The Christian God is Omnipotent. Why should this change just because an undesirable event has occurred?
It was that same God who took my school down, and killed all those people. This doesn't worry me though, simply because he doesn't really exist. Just the way our universe works.
25/02/2011 10:21:08 a.m.
Not an act of God? Oh really? Is that the authoritative definitive dogma or a personal view? Earthquakes have traditionally been seen as being in the realm of 'acts of God'. Apparently God works in mysterious ways... so who knows? Sounds to me like the priest is making it up as he goes along, which is also a tradition of the Church. I am sure he is a very lovely man but ancient superstition aside, surely we are the play things of impersonal natural forces and such debates about the finer points of Church dogma are utterly irrelevant at a time of such human disaster and suffering.
25/02/2011 10:16:57 a.m.
Of course if it were something good happening then everyone would be thanking god. "What a miracle". Pathetic. People, please do not turn to god. Use your commonsense and realise there is/are no god(s), no one is responsible for this tragedy. Please, turn to family, turn to friends, anything but this drek being peddled to you.
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