Defence Minister talks Afghan torture - Full interview

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Tue, 11 Oct 2011 7:06p.m.

Defence Minister Wayne Mapp

Defence Minister Wayne Mapp

Minister of Defence Wayne Mapp cannot entirely rule out the possibility that New Zealand SAS troops in Afghanistan handed prisoners over to Afghan authorities to be tortured.

A United Nations report that was released yesterday said that there was “systematic torture” at prisons in Afghanistan, especially one prison called ‘Department 90/124”.

Political reporter Patrick Gower talked to Dr Mapp today about whether New Zealand’s SAS played a role in handing prisoners over to the Afghan authorities for torture.

Dr Mapp says he has received “no information that any of them have been mistreated”.

“I have asked that question directly and it is my understanding based on the information I have received that it actually hasn’t happened,” he says.  

Patrick asked the Minister, “So you can absolutely rule it out that none of those 58 people have ended up in department 90”.

Dr Mapp replied, “The information that I have is that they have not but obviously that will have to be more fully checked but that is the information I have”.


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12 Oct 2011 11:57a.m.

Concerned Kiwi wrote:

Where is the line of questioning which asks: 'You rely on the information that you have, you have no means of tracking where they go, you said that, surely we should state clearly to the Afghans, that unless our legal officer has consistent access to prisoners handed over so as to ensure their safety, we will pull out, or cease handing suspects over to the Afghan government.' You let this minister off the hook pretty lightly by allowing him to answer the same question over and over...

12 Oct 2011 09:49a.m.

Hamish wrote:

Torture is a fact of war, the Americans openly do it and they are top dog in the region, the Arabs are still in the dark ages so no surprise there. At least our guys dont have to get their hands dirty. As for the politicians, they are either less informed than us or they are lying. Just another reason to leave this American mess behind.