Destiny Church pastor wants presidential title

21 Jun 2011 05:13p.m.

Simone wrote:

I have the outside, objective 'information' about the Tamakis and I don't particularly like what I see. I'm not saying that she's not an excellent businesswoman but hey, she and hubby are supposed to be running a *church*, *not* a profit making enterprise. I repeat, if Hannah wants to run a womens group, then why not create a Destinys Women outfit from her own sect, or form a Maori section of the Business and Professional Womens Association?

I repeat- Destiny is not a mainstream Maori organisation, it is seen as a cult or sect. Many wahine Maori are deeply suspicious of its agenda, leadership and motivations.

21 Jun 2011 10:38a.m.

Anne wrote:

Simone

Stop generalising,and get your facts straight. You have your head buried in the sand that you cant see anything positive if you fell over it. Media can influence the easiest of prey like your self...Get off your butt and get the information about Hannah yourself. You will find alot of great and positive things for our wahine. She is willing to learn all that. And all you wanna do is knock it.
Time of new blood and change, not because there is disrespect for our kuia, but change to methodoligies can only be good for our future generation.

20 Jun 2011 12:46p.m.

Simone wrote:

I think most mainstream Maori resent the Destiny sect. It doesn't address mainstream Maori concerns about issues of greater importance to us and it goes on and on about pakeha religious obsessions like homosexuality. And why sit down with pakeha fundamentalists when most of that lot did nothing but disrespect powhiri at events, call those of us who wanted a fair go for reclaiming our land and fisheries 'communists' and hang around with neo-Nazi white supremacist groups during the eighties?


Missy, if I find that Destiny has been attacking our takatapui and whakawahine Maori whanau members again, or discriminating actively against them, then you will get negative feedback. Lots of it. From other Maori.

18 Jun 2011 01:24p.m.

Anne wrote:

Simone
No I am not a member. But there are heaps of us outside of this church who support their mahi. So you are one of the very few who jumped on the Media Bandwagon huh!!!!LOL

Another sucker..If you haven't met her or taken the trouble to get to know the person, then dont comment about something you have no idea about.

17 Jun 2011 02:02p.m.

Simone wrote:

Yes. Hannah and Brian Tamaki are anti-takatapui and anti-whakawahine bigots. As sister to a takatapui tane, I really object to that woman and her cronies trying to subvert one of the most respected Maori social service organisations in Aotearoa.

Mrs Tamaki has admitted she hadn't even *heard* of the League until 2006. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her. Her husband cannot even speak te reo. Her church has been heavily criticised by many mainstream Maori over its rackrent titheing practices while many of our people are doing it tough in the South Auckland suburbs.

The Maori Womens Welfare League is there to serve *all* Maori, not just members of an extremist sect whose front group political parties crashed and burned within Maori electorates in 2005 and 2008. The League's constitution explicitly states that is a "non-sectarian" organisation.

Anne, are you a member of the Destiny sect yourself? If so, could you please provide your full name and whether or not you occupy any position within that church? And if so, may I say that it was deeply dishonest of you not to state that at the onset of your korero when you posted your comment.

16 Jun 2011 07:27a.m.

Anne wrote:

What is the Constitutional foundation of MWWL?...Has TV3 done their home work..??

Interesting..??I am researching right now..LOL..!!

16 Jun 2011 07:03a.m.

Anne wrote:

So does anybody have a problem with Hannah putting forward her name for nomination???....

What is the procedure and protocol of Maori Welfare League.
What is the kaupapa.????..

This woman alone has got a background in leadership,has touched the lives of maori women (young and old), maori families,Rangatahi,and have personally been in the thick
of it where violence, alcohol, drugs,sexual abuse,etc
have been of grave concern,and have seen lives turned around, that these ones stand staunch behind her.

I believe that this woman is well qualified to be the next president of Maori Womens Welfare League.
Is there discrimination where one is of a Christian belief that does not agree with the majority.

Just like any other minority,religious persuasion should not be the reason for reacting to Hannah seeking nomination.