Electronic cigarette debate sparks up again

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Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:00p.m.

Auckland University has launched the worlds largest study into whether e-cigarettes are effective

Auckland University has launched the worlds largest study into whether e-cigarettes are effective

By Jessica Rowe

The electronic cigarette debate has reignited.

Known as e-cigarettes, the mock cigarettes contain nicotine and are banned from being sold in New Zealand.

But Auckland University is embarking on a major study to find out whether they can help people quit smoking.

Dean Smith was a smoker for 30 years, but then he discovered e-cigarettes and gave away the real thing.

“I haven't touched tobacco in over a year and a half, so I have all the benefits of being a non-smoker but I'm still enjoying all the sensations of smoking,” he says.

It looks like a cigarette and even lights up when you take a puff, but instead of inhaling damaging smoke, you breathe in vapour.

Because it contains nicotine it's banned from sale here.

Auckland University has launched the worlds largest study into whether e-cigarettes are effective in helping people quit.

“We are going to recruit 650 people in New Zealand for this trial, so we think at the end of this study, the evidence will suggest one way or the other, do they help people quit smoking,” says the university’s Chris Bullen.

Anti-smoking campaigner Dr Murray Laugeson has carried out his own tests and is convinced e-cigarettes cause less harm than tobacco cigarettes.

“All around the emissions score for e-cigarettes is less than 1 percent of what it is for an ordinary Holiday or Marlborough cigarette,” he says.

Medsafe has ruled that "nicotine for inhalation is a medicine", and insists that more research needs to be done, before they can be sold in New Zealand.

But Dr Laugeson and the ex-smokers who are using them are convinced that e-cigarettes are significantly safer than tobacco cigarettes, and that they should be made available to smokers who want to quit.

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17 Sep 2011 09:07a.m.

Jacob West wrote:

"Nicotine for inhalation is a medicine"??? Can i have a prescription for a carton of smokes now? ^^

14 Sep 2011 07:15p.m.

Rob H wrote:

There are lots of us who have successfully given up tobacco proucts using these. The key here though is the research does need to be done, and bloody good on us for leading the way. There is already an established New Zealand forum at www.kiwivapers.com with a fair amount of first hand information on the use of electronic cigarettes and the different products available. The key for me is that if I had continued to smoke, I had a 50/50 chance of it killing me and I was at 100% risk of damaging my health in various ways, along with those around me, the same cannot be said for vaping IMO.

14 Sep 2011 11:18a.m.

Dex wrote:

E-cigs are just as legal, as they are illegal. The fact that Medsafe classify them as illegal (as per the medicines act) is only half the story. The other half of the story is that Electronic cigarettes containing Nicotine are already classified as legal under the Smokefree environments act, and that its the job of the Ministry of Health (who's mandate it is to protect the overall Health of New Zealanders), not Medsafe, to enforce these laws. Having spoken to the Ministry of Health on several occasions, I can say that they have no official position on the legality of electronic cigarettes, pending internal discussion and advice from their lawyers. Ultimately the actual legality of E-cigs containing nicotine depends entirely on how the Ministry of health decides to apply these laws, and even then they could likely be challenged in court (as happened in the US where the FDA lost, and they're now legal)

13 Sep 2011 05:40p.m.

MattZuke wrote:

Electricman, if it is an addiction, then it's a medical condition, which is something the powers that be want to avoid. Thus far the recommended treatment for cigarette addiction is nicotine. As the http://healthnz.co.nz study verifies, no risk what so ever to bystanders, and so much less harmful than cigarettes to the user. Even our own FDA advocates lifetime nicotine use over cigarette smoking. * No evidence that nicotine causes or promotes cancer * Nicotine may slightly increase the risk of MI and stroke. If so the risks are far lower than those of cigarette smoking * Nicotine likely has adverse effects on reproduction, including increasing the risk of pre-eclampsia and preterm birth http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/NewsEvents/UCM232147.pdf

13 Sep 2011 03:17p.m.

Dex wrote:

No mention of the fact that the NZ Ministry of health, having completed their own studies say that e-cigs are "Far safer than smoking" or that there has already been a recommendation made by a parliamentary select committee for an amendment to the Smokefree environments act to specifically classify e-cigs as a non-medicinal tobacco product

13 Sep 2011 01:45p.m.

Jonathan wrote:

They are already selling e cigs that contain nicotine in new zealand hydroelectroniccigarette.com/ I purchased one in Dunedin, and they sell them in many other places, including 25 places in Auckland. How are they able to get around the law ?

13 Sep 2011 01:20p.m.

Electricman wrote:

ECF misinformation crew is at it agian. Addicts "junkies " make excuses why it's ok "safe "to continue their puffing Nicotine addiction. That's what "junkies" do best is make excuses.

13 Sep 2011 10:40a.m.

mattzuke wrote:

"It's sad that ecig manufacturers say where pretty sure our products are safe?????? Pretty sure? Is “pretty sure” that a product is safe good enough for you, or for your family?" Generally yeah, pretty sure is good enough considering it's an accepted social norm to smoke tobacco cigarettes in front of children. Keep in mind that according to the study by HealthNZ, 98% of the nicotine is absorbed by the user, so the bystander exposure is .0225mg per hour with a bystander locking lips with a vaper. You're at greater risk of nicotine exposure eating eggplant, at .01g/100g. But it's more than that, the actual base of electronic cigarettes are safer than Glade Plugins which use iso-paraffinic compounds with a HMIS health rating of 2, moderate health risk. Propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin is rated at 0, and has a history of 40 years in nebulizers and inhalers, not to speak of theatrical fog where home users can vaporize more in an hour than an e-cig users could use in half a decade. Not to speak of food grade flavoring vs industrial perfumes. The same would hold true for paraffin candles, which are combusted, have a negative impact on air quality, and may contain carcinogens. Seriously, all e-cigarettes need to be is safer than setting tobacco on fire and inhaling smoke, and all objective evidence suggests that they are safer than burning candles for bystanders.

13 Sep 2011 10:38a.m.

Kiwi Vapor wrote:

e-cigarettes WOULD pose an unacceptably high risk if it wasn't for the known and well promoted dangers of smoking tobacco. Of course the long term dangers can't be known, ditto for cellphone use, but since the ingredients of e-cigarettes ARE well known and the safety of these is well established, it is a moral travesty that NZ authorities would try to restrict NZ smokers to a choice of quit or die.

13 Sep 2011 10:15a.m.

mattzuke wrote:

"Many scary questions have arisen about e-cigs:" By fear mongers who would rather poison the well than investigate the objective risk factor. "Just how much nicotine gets in your brain when you vape one cartridge?" About 98% is absorbed by the user according to http://www.healthnz.co.nz "The amount of nicotine that you take in from e-cigs will depend on how many cartridges you suck on, how deeply you inhale, how often you partake, and to some extent, how much money you have to buy replacement cartridges." Not as far as I'm aware. E-cigs are an efficient delivery system, as indicated in the NZ study 98% is absorbed by the user with normal use. It's not like tobacco cigarettes that lose nicotine via sidestream smoke, delivery depends on active use. "Manufacturers may make claims about the actual dose received but without pharmacological and physiological testing, the answers don't have meaning. " Manufacturers make a claim about the nicotine content of e-liquid only, in mg/ml. This HAS been tested by Health NZ. As opposed to regular cigarettes which were tested for nicotine delivery, not nicotine content. There is a good deal MORE nicotine in a tobacco cigarette, just a good deal less is delivered to the user, where this is typically between 10mg/pack for ultra lights, 24 for full flavor, 36 for non filter. "Are e-cigs more addictive than tobacco cigarettes? Again, no one knows yet" Actually there is evidence to suggest they are not. It's called the nicotine paradox. We KNOW that nicotine outside of the delivery system of cigarettes isn't nearly as addictive, which is why organizations can feel safe freely giving kids nicotine gum. I disagree with the practice, but it has been observed that nicotine gum doesn't equal a life long addiction like cigarettes. There is evidence in the form of rat studies that minor tobacco alkaloids reinforce nicotine addiction esp in adolescent. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19366487

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