GCSB inspector doesn't recall concerns
Fri, 28 Sep 2012 6:02p.m.
By Tova O’Brien
The GCSB is so top secret that even its satellite dishes are hidden under opaque domes.
There are just two people it reports to: the Prime Minister, and Intelligence and Security Inspector-General Paul Neazor.
A retired judge, Mr Neazor ran the investigation into the agency's illegal spying on Kim Dotcom.
He admits, “they made a mistake”. But it's not just the one mistake they’ve made, contrary to what John Key suggested earlier this week.
In his annual report last year, Mr Neazor raised concerns three times about the GCSB operating outside of what was authorised.
In one case the authorisation needed to be limited, in another the execution of the authorisation was questioned, and an interception authority had expired in the third.
Green Party co-leader Russel Norman says it’s not surprising that the GCSB has stepped outside the law.
“The GCSB operates without any external scrutiny and in that situation it's only human nature that people start to view themselves as a law unto themselves,” he says.
Mr Key says Mr Neazor felt the GCSB’s mistakes were only minor.
“They were very minor process issues, they were resolved fully to his satisfaction and he never raised them with me,” he says.
And when 3 News raised those concerns with Mr Neazor he couldn't remember what they were, and instead compared his annual report to a poem by Robert Browning.
“Somebody asked Browning once what he meant by one of his poems and he said, ‘Only God and Browning knew what I meant and now only God knows,'” he says.
But Labour leader David Shearer isn’t satisfied the matter is resolved.
“I'm not confident about the accountabilities in this organisation and the accountabilities that run right up to the Prime Minister,” he says.
Labour wants a full inquiry, and so do the Greens. They’ve laid a complaint with police saying the GCSB illegally intercepted private communications.
It's the same charge camera man Bradley Ambrose faced during the ‘teapot tape’ saga.
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3/10/2012 5:34:38 p.m.
It would seem that the tea consumed by the Prime Minister and John Banks was drugged as both participants have amnesia. I think the police should drug raid the cafe involved to check it out!!!!
1/10/2012 2:00:15 p.m.
ENOUGH DAMAGES.. wrote:
This National Government makes a lot of mistakes that we cannot trust him..
John Key make bad mistake by supporting his minister John Banks and his deputy, but to cover-up its tracks or to lie is not what we want for a Government..
We want to start fresh with a new Leader..
This National John Key' must GO for the sake of our children's safety and its people..
1/10/2012 1:00:35 p.m.
@ Robert W, yes NZ has the best people with the worst leader. But that will not bother you since you are living abroad and have been for many years. All these lies and this corrution will destroy NZ. When you can not trust your own PM where does that leave you?
29/09/2012 7:04:24 p.m.
Robert W wrote:
@ John and Dennis thank you and yes i did read all your comments Dennis. Very analytical and sensible however, we are all entitled to our opinions, you believe what you want and i'll believe what i want to.
I'm not into conspiracy theories although i consent some senior officials might be manipulated to twist things to deceive us common folk.
Haha, my eldest son thinks contrary to me and i respect him for that, but again, he's entitled to his opinion.
I base my support of Mr Neazor on the brief occasions that i conversed with him. He surely would'nt remember me, but i remember him well and i liked the guy for his friendly and forthright attitude. Well, hes a lawyer and as such should be easily able to converse with anyone. I'm not related, but i counted amongst my friends, his late brother John.
Ok, i'm willing to concede that,as we age, our memory fails us sometimes, its human nature,.My God im guilty of this occasionally, but this is no reason to attack a senior legal person, who i know has worked hard for our country all his life. And i'm not in the legal field.
Im retired and i dont live in New Zealand, but i'm very interested in whats happening there, and i love my country, and miss it very much.
One day i'm coming back, maybe in a coffin?
Godbless all New Zealanders, the best people on the planet.
29/09/2012 6:05:01 p.m.
Paul Holmes' comment in the Herald sums up a lot well
29/09/2012 1:59:39 p.m.
making that trying to make that poor man a scape goat , we need an inquiry into john keys blind trust and into his corruption , and into the fact that he thinks ethics are a joke just open to interpretation oh new zealand oh nz how did you let the wool be pulled over your eyes like you have shame on you for that people how foolish humans can be . i recall talk back radio in 2008 john key was gonna make you all millionaires you said , oh hes like a messiah you said , oh you foolish people .
29/09/2012 11:00:41 a.m.
To Robert. Because of your interest in the matter may I ask you to compare what I am about to say with what you have been led to believe by would-be reliable source. The impression from the tone of the information laid may have resulted an intended impression. I can assure you it is exaggerated. For example, 3 of the counts (racketeering, money laundering and copyright infringement) are alleged as conspiracy between directors and employees of the Company. It is put to the Grand Jury that these gentlemen were part of a World wide criminal conspiracy. In actual fact, none of them have a criminal record other than a very minor detail from filing a paper out of time in Honk Kong. You will read that Mr Dotcom did have a computer hacking conviction many years ago and was also charged and convicted on an insider trading charge about 10 years ago. I believe that these convictions are now wiped in the origin countries and he came here with a clean slate. I presume in answering immigration questioning he is presented with the awkward question about criminal record. Although having a clean slate, and his past history wiped, he still answered the questions honestly and declared the convictions that had been wiped. As they effectively no longer exist that information should have gone nowhere other than to whom it was passed. To attempt to ignore the clean slate would, in my view, be contempt of the other country's Law and Court. The term you have used "copyright burning" indicates that you have a wrong impression of his business activity. Effectively he has a huge computer network storage facility (like a warehouse) that he leases at a cost of more than $10million a year and anyone can put files there for storage and then access them at a later date or from another place. The problem is that many people, for whatever reason, leave their data open for anyone to access. So the allegation is that there is copyright breach inconsistent with a regime in America requiring Americans who operate such public storage facilities and Internet service providers in general, to police this access and remove any public links to copyrighted works (Digital Millennium Copyright Act). There are civil remedies for this form of breach and literally huge amounts can be sought in damages by that remedy. However, somehow this company, and this country are being used to form a test case to see if criminal liability is a remedy to alleged breaches. This form of secondary infringement has never been charged as a criminal offence in New Zealand and according to Megaupload's lawyer neither in the USA. His money was earned by advertising on the web pages and a fee if you wish to increase the speed of the data transfer. Otherwise the service was free. If, for example, you wished to send a 40 megabyte file to Justice Paul Neazor your email provider will probably require that to be broken into 3 different files. For free you could send the complete file to Megaupload and just send a ‘link’, which is a unique string of letters or characters, to Paul. Hence there are primarily non-infringing uses. Thank you for you interest if you have read this far. If you were at all interested to find out more there is an interview between John Campbell and Kim Dotcom that basically repeats what I have attempted to explain. That you may access at www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrRaeHD5TE
29/09/2012 10:20:49 a.m.
Fair NZer wrote:
Perhaps all guilty GCSB culprits should be independently investigated to reveal the root of all evils, both local or abroad.....eh?
29/09/2012 9:32:50 a.m.
Oh no we have another man with "amnesia"
29/09/2012 8:53:26 a.m.
Jim Seaview wrote:
The GCSB - again another totally inept Government department, who have arrogantly displayed that they are accountable to no-one, can do what ever they like, spy on any NZ Resident as they please, AND their fat salaries paid for by the hard working, overtaxed, overRated, diligent, struggling taxpayer. The GCSB have taken "incompetancy' to new levels never thought possible in this Unviverse. They could not with ALL the substantial resources of the NZ Government find out if Mr Dotcom was a resident of NZ or not. Why didnt they just phone Mr Dotcom and ask him????
We do not need a useless enquiry.
They should all be SACKED as none of them have displayed that the hard working tax payer ever received good or adequate value for what our dollars and proved beyond doubt their desire to work outside NZ Laws to please their USA masters.
They have to go. Einstein once said "you cannot fix the problems of this world by the level of thinking that created them?" I didnt realise that Albert had ever studied NZ Politics!!
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