GCSB silent on police relationship
Thu, 04 Oct 2012 6:13p.m.
By Tova O’Brien
Much like Kim Dotcom, spies aren't fond of being spied upon.
Because of the attempts of 3 News to talk to staff outside the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) building this morning, other staff members were contacted on their way to work and ushered through a side gate down a bank.
The GCSB illegally spied on Dotcom because it didn't fully understand the immigration law. An audit of the past three years since the law changed shows the agency worked with police 58 times, and three of those cases could be illegal.
Security expert Nicky Hager questions that relationship.
“They've made it so they're on call for the New Zealand police and quite possibly other police forces to just say, ‘Will you do some quiet spying for us on the side?’”
There are 330 people working for the GCSB. Over the last three mistake-prone years there's been a heavy rotation of directors. There was Bruce Ferguson, then Simon Murdoch, Sir Jerry Mateparae, Simon Murdoch again, and now Ian Fletcher.
And then there's Paul Neazor – the spy watchdog who couldn't remember the agency's past mistakes.
It was Mr Murdoch who signed off on the Dotcom surveillance, and he's now heading an inquiry into the Rena disaster.
Both the police and their minister refused to be interviewed, and the GCSB didn't reply at all – so it seems we'll continue to only hear about their secretive relationship when things go unlawfully wrong.
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9/10/2012 10:21:52 p.m.
Nicky Hager needs to be listened to! Key is not just selling the land, he's selling our values and our privacy. Kiwi's are not stupid, It's almost comical how so many people knew the whole kim.com fiasco was a set up from the start. If the authorities were any good at their jobs they would have covered it up better. Clearly they either think NZ's are stupid or we breed stupid politicians. Got to say I'm never voting national again after this
8/10/2012 12:55:23 a.m.
To me, every legal person is off chasing a red herring about residency being applicable to privacy intrusion by a State agency. In order to spy on Finnish, German and Dutch citizens it must surely require authority from those States, and reason to do so, because none of those states are alien regimes. With at least one there is a criminal liability of 1 years jail. Conversely, Neazor is saying that it is perfectly alright to spy on any of us, for no reason, if we are outside the twelve-mile limit.
6/10/2012 12:03:10 p.m.
Paul Neazor has been misadvised that NZ residency status is an excuse. They are protected World wide by laws against intrusion of privacy, public peace and personal reputation by, at least, one home country. ("spying" "raids" "falsely claiming a criminal record exists")
6/10/2012 10:26:22 a.m.
Curiosity often leads to trouble.
5/10/2012 8:51:30 a.m.
It's not that they "didn't understand the law". They think they are above the law and they usually get away with it until we have situations like this where they come under heavy scrutiny and they get caught. The whole point of the GCSB's existence is to provide another node in the US/UK governments' Echelon spying network. The GCSB is there for their benefit, not New Zealand's. That's one of the reasons why those activists attacked it a few years ago.
4/10/2012 9:24:33 p.m.
Question : If Kim Dotcom was New Zealand's Robin Hood who was New Zealand's Sheriff of Nottingham in January 2012? Answers 1)AG; 2)SG or 3)DPC. Warning... Before answering have all previous comments vetted by Kristy McDonald. "Feared by the bad, loved by the good..."
4/10/2012 8:10:49 p.m.
Neuron Hotwire wrote:
Neurosynaptic sources have just asserted a major drug-bust was supposed to be under-way this week but that it's been stalled because the GCSB scandal tipped off all the targets (who, rightly paranoid, figured out they were being spied on and it wasn't the dope after all).
4/10/2012 7:53:20 p.m.
Stop Key's Zombie Army wrote:
Customarily, zombies haven't a reputation for being particularly effective communicators.
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