Gay marriage could cost votes - Labour MP
Wed, 08 Aug 2012 6:24p.m.
By Patrick Gower
Labour leader David Shearer is facing party in-fighting over the gay marriage bill.
His Mangere MP Su'a William Sio has spoken out, saying it has offended the Pacific Island community and must be withdrawn - or it could cost Labour the next election.
Mr Shearer has been out and about in Nelson, trying to engage with the provinces. The problem is, the gay marriage bill has caused a rebellion back in Labour's true heartland - south Auckland - and it is being led by one of his own MPs.
“Sua's obviously got an opinion - its an opinion that's not shared right across our Caucus,” Mr Shearer says.
Mr Sio says that the bill is a big problem and could cost Labour its Pacific vote, and with that, the next election.
“There are other, more weightier, more pressing issues like holding John Key to account for the weakening economy and the lack of jobs, and that's where our priority ought to be rather than an issue that has the potential to really derail our focus on winning election,” Mr Sio says.
Prime Minister John Key has chipped in on the issue.
“It just shows you they are not a happy team 'round there in Labour.”
Mr Sio says the anti-smacking bill, prostitution law reform and civil unions cost Labour 30,000 votes from the conservative, church-going Pacific community - and gay marriage could do as much damage.
It is a view backed by Church leaders such as Word of Life Church leader Reverend Tavale Matai’a.
“This is a slap in the face for us. It’s violating the foundation of our society - of our community.”
But Louisa Wall, who put the bill in the ballot box, says she won't be dropping the bill - even if it costs Labour votes.
So Mr Shearer's attempt at a charm offensive in the provinces is completely overshadowed by an internal Labour Party row over gay marriage.
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6/09/2012 9:42:32 p.m.
Gary it takes strong men to allow and let God run there lives not weak men. Your the one who is afraid to allow God to run your life that makes you weak! Sio Williams well done you made a wise choice, for standing up for what is right. Society has in turn become so stupid they rely on human reson rather than scripture. Oh and also Gary, Christians are humans you know that much like you are. They may have committed alot of violence in the past that doesnt mean Gods not real. Moreover Yes God loves all ppl but God absolutely hates Sin of which homosexuality is one.
5/09/2012 10:51:23 p.m.
Evangelist Associate Pastor Mary Paki wrote:
Gary: The facts are in New Testament 2 Peter 2 vs 5-9, As God states be warned, Sodom & Gomorrah is to be taken as a warning, sooner or later God will show what will happen to ungodly people who don't fear God. God is merciful to those who don't deserve it but the deadline is coming for all of us to be judged. We are in the last days and wickedness displayed is to be expected, but it doesnt mean the christian sits back and says nothing. The Rapture awaits the people of God and judgement day follows. Watch for those signs, You have been warned.Craig Young, I wasn't speaking about how he voted, I was talking about how the Eternal Holy GOD (Adonai, Elohim) allowed Hone Harawira to be voted in and only him! for his own party, only GOD can promote one to Parliament with his own party, but GOD'S plan is far beyond what you see. The Same with GOD allowing same sex bill to go through 1st reading, WATCH for the after affects on NZ and all these leaders who are leading NZ astray into wickedness against GOD. Watch what happens to NZ, Christchurch is a warning to what is the future for NZ. NZ only hope! is to repent; and turn from their wicked ways and get right with GOD.
27/08/2012 9:55:52 a.m.
@Damian is that only as far back as your knowledge goes Damion or do you refuse to look any further?? Try please you will see a whole lot more carried out in the name of God by Christians. Oh and you forgot Hitler! History does go a little further than the last 150 years you know.
24/08/2012 8:21:53 a.m.
Christians have been the most violent and cruel killers?
Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot Lenin are some of the worst people to have ever lived. Which denomination did they belong to?
20/08/2012 9:23:30 a.m.
@Mary God is there for all not just Christians who incidentally have been the most violent and cruel killing millions over the ages! But then again I guess God told them to do it! When you look back at the facts of history it is clear to see that Christians were bad scary people, torturing and killing in the name of Christ, so why are they righteous now? What has changed? you follow the same rule book! I know you are more civilised physically but mentally you carry the same message and still want to punish and undermine anyone who does not follow your brainwashed views!!
17/08/2012 11:54:39 a.m.
Craig Young wrote:
?!!!? Hone Harawira is voting for marriage equality though, Mary!
16/08/2012 10:38:12 p.m.
Mr Sio williams, Christ For Every Nation church in Otara and Otorohanga are proud of you for standing up. Otara is proud of you. You are quite right, many people left labour party, my parents long standing labour members left because of the immoral or gutless stands that Labour party took. Why do you not cross the floor and start your own christian party. You already have the votes of Mangere, you could find yourself with all true, christian parties standing with you and possibly all other christians and christian parties joining you. If God can raise up John Harawira because of his passion for his Maori People, how much more you for Gods Righteousness. God will honour a man who stands for His Righteousness, not those who lead the people astray into idolatry of all kinds of wicked ways. God bless you in all you do. You have the backing of many christians and christian churches of all denominations. If God be for you Who can stand against you.God bless you in all you do. God protect you and your family.
9/08/2012 10:22:37 a.m.
Maybe Mr Su'a William Sio should join the Conservative party with that religious nut case Collin Craig! Unfortunately Mr Sio is not pushing this issue based on politics he is pushing it based on religion! Religion easily takes over and controls the minds of the weak! Christianity did not exist in NZ or the Pacific Islands until the cult deciples infiltrated their lands and forced this upon them. Now they talk like it was their own history and culture since time began!
8/08/2012 8:59:58 p.m.
Dave North wrote:
So vote counts are more important than peoples rights.
8/08/2012 8:30:06 p.m.
Finally someone from the Labour Party who is thinking main stream.Mr Sio is on the track.I don,t care about same sex marriages ,prostition reform and other PC ideals .Mr Sio is right in what he says as there are far higher pressing priorities .The job of the oposition is to hold the incumbent party accountable .I have not heard the Labour Party talk good economics for main stream and low income voters for a long time .The main issues are a side lined for the Labour ,Green PC brigade .
Louise Walls has a gay agenda .Once she has got what she wants she will disapear into ablivian.
I hate to say it but Hone Harawera is more in touch with the concerns of New Zealanders the the existing Labour Party .
Mr Sio you are right .Labour caucus take note or you will be in oppisition for anther three years.
PS Forget the Capital Gains Tax it is a vote loser .
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