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Mon, 21 Nov 2011 8:34p.m.

Phil Goff

Phil Goff

By Peter Wilson, Political Writer

Phil Goff charmed the worm and on the basis of a wriggly line across the bottom of TV screens beat John Key in a live debate on Monday night.

TV3's only leaders debate featured "the reactor" which was controlled by an audience of 65 uncommitted voters who could drive it up or down to show their approval or disapproval of what was being said by the Labour leader and the prime minister.

Carefully controlled by broadcaster John Campbell, it was a fireworks-free zone as the leaders took turns answering questions - with the worm judging their answers.

It liked Mr Goff's call for equal education for all and his complaints about the growing inequality gap, and spiked on raising the minimum wage.

It didn't like Mr Key comparing New Zealand with other countries and was unimpressed with his explanation that the global recession had been difficult to deal with.

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Quoting Treasury figures was a definite turn off and that drove Mr Key down as well.

It scored them even on keeping Kiwibank in New Zealand hands - but only after Mr Key had promised it wouldn't be sold on his watch which he had said before but seemed to surprise the worm controllers.

Mr Goff's biggest strike should have been asset sales but he didn't make the most of it.

Mr Key countered well with his assertions that the government would retain majority control and the money would be used to good effect.

It wasn't at all convinced about Mr Key claiming Epsom voters were free to vote for whoever they wanted, after Campbell had explained the stitch-up National was trying to organise in the electorate.

And it didn't like either of them talking about ACT or Winston Peters.

It favoured firm answers and neither leader got away with fudging their answers.

Monday night's debate was the only one that will use the worm.

The fourth and last debate will take place on TV One on Thursday night.

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22 Nov 2011 07:50a.m.

Sam wrote:

Good on Phil Goff, coming out strong after 3 years of negative media. It just comes to show that when coming down to the crunch Phil is showing his spine and staunchness he has always portrayed as a competent minister. It was only three years ago that the media started portraying Goff as even a little weak. I say good on you Goff, you spoke well, gave comprehensive explanations of policy and didn't just list off a bunch of sound bites. I'm a swing voter and went for Key, but frankly Phil or Winston have my vote this year. Key has just proven to be a clown.

22 Nov 2011 05:47a.m.

Homer wrote:

What annoys me is when people say John Key is a nice guy so I will vote for him. What a joke, people are so easily led. we have him saying about asset sales that mums and dads can invest. As Goff rightly said mums and dads are struggling to live, they don't have the money for these investments. They will go to foreigners people. Child poverty is increasing steadily. John Key's answer is National standards in schools. Unemployment has dramatically grown. John Keys answer is to get tough on beneficiaries. Where are the jobs John???

22 Nov 2011 03:41a.m.

Nick wrote:

Congratulations to both leaders for a civilised discussion. I would give it to Goff by a heartstring. A mistake having the panel telling us what to think at the end. Therese Arseneau reciting her lecture notes rather than analysing the debate;Paul Henry in National acolyte mode; Duncan Garner unable to exercise his adversarial prowess for want of a good opponent. Why bother?

22 Nov 2011 01:44a.m.

andrew williams wrote:

latest polls indicate that Goff's preferred prime minister ratings have rocketed to 49% from the previous 18%. Labour has also moved up slightly at 36%. National 43%. The number of undecided voters 12%.

22 Nov 2011 01:33a.m.

Memo wrote:

Interestingly Phil Goff was completely on top of his game tonight and totally annihilated John Key. Key appeared lost in a void of inadequacies, reciting over time and again his same old reiterate of false claims and promises. The indicator (worm) explicitly favored Mr. Goff-some times climbing so high it was almost off the chart...strangely though when the worm flat-lined for what seemed an eternity whilst Key was trying to justify asset sales and the likes and then it disappeared...'funny that'. All up I thought it was an intelligent enlightening show hosted by John Cambell. However I was bitterly disappointed to learn of the totally bias commentators chosen for the panel. Duncan Garner we know is immaturely fixated by Key and the Nat's. “Paul Henry”...what on earth was he doing on the panel... wasn't that long ago he was crying foul cause he missed out on a position with the National party....and I believe he's now off to Aus for a better salary....come on TV3 get real. I also will not be watching TV3 coverage of the election with this panel. Sorry John!!

21 Nov 2011 11:40p.m.

choochoo wrote:

I was surprised by the worm reaction too. Mind you, every time ( happened a few times ) John Key opened his mouth to say ’mums and dads’, I nearly gaged and puked! I also thought his argument over lower wages was not convincing. He confirmed he did not do his homework and showed up empty handed. Apart from announcing the last statement and summery, JK appeared hassled and his forehead had as much wrinkles as a 99 year old man! People see these things!

21 Nov 2011 11:39p.m.

Dangerous Den wrote:

I believe we have all been misled by the Worm and Dirty Tricks.

21 Nov 2011 11:36p.m.

tang wrote:

Even Paul Henry proves Goff right, he's moving for a better paying job in Australia what a laugh

21 Nov 2011 11:31p.m.

Daniel wrote:

I quite like John Key, Obviously he is the more popular person and all, Am proud of what he has achieved over the past few years. But Phil Goff did a better job at reaching out to ordinary New Zealanders tonight.... I was purely going to vote for National.... Now I'm 50/50... After tonight, I'm considering switching my vote to Labour... (It's not that I don't like John Key) I do, He has been awesome, But I like Phil Goffs policy's better! even if I don't actually like Phil (Who is a Doofus BTW) but I agree, NO ASSET SALES! and I'd like $15 an hour! YES PLEASE! Might not sound like much to those on higher incomes but for someone on minimum wage ATM is tons extra! So keep it up Phil and you may just get my vote... Along with many others I'm guessing?

21 Nov 2011 11:24p.m.

dave wrote:

"undecided voters" get the worm huh??? nice work media works TV3-another jack up under your nose...don't just take my word for it-here's the dopey invite you sent to those"undecideds">>>> Here is how they recruited their panel of “undecided” voters….via email…to known political activists. Hi Everyone, We are inviting people to attend the TV3 leaders debate on 21st November in the studio in Eden Terrace. I have blind copied this email to ensure your privacy. We are putting together an audience from a range of backgrounds to attend the debate. It starts at 5.45 pm and finishes at about 8pm. All those attending get $70 to cover travel costs and any expenses incurred. Refreshments will be provided and I am sure it will be an interesting evening for those who go. If this sounds like something you would like to do please send me a reply with the best day time phone number to contact you on and I will give you a call in the next day or so. If you have friends you think would like to go to this please feel free to forward this email to them. All the best Random? Nope. Undecided? Not likely. Orchestrated and manipulated by political activists…you bet. This is a major credibility failure from TV3 and from Roy Morgan. It makes a mockery now of headlines that include any reference to the worm.