Thu, 21 Feb 2013 8:25a.m.
The Govt's plan to prosecute the partners of beneficiaries caught cheating the system has been called a "cynical, political ploy".
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25/02/2013 4:46:11 p.m.
Ohhh My Kathy, still have 'ketitis' I see. Your life must be so empty that all you seem to think about is John Key!!...he is mentioned 4x times in your post below, think you need medication and/or a psychiatrist as it's unhealthy having a sheer hatered of someone like that...someone you don't know personally or has hurt you personally. (shakes head and wonders if she needs an 'intervention')
22/02/2013 8:23:39 a.m.
Jim Seaview wrote:
@NIGEL WROTE: "Jim Seaview I suppose you approve of the penal transportation to Australia.For crimes such as stealing a loaf of bread Behaviour that otherwise might be criminal is not, when it relates to the preservation of life." This is hardly comparable as the people stealing a loaf of bread to survive 180 years ago in Britain did not have access to any state benefits. In NZ we are blessed with a safety net that when the chips are down for a single person or a family - there is generally an approppriate (to the prevailing circumstance) benefit paid so that people can temporarily survive until things get better, all paid for by the hard working, overtaxed, overRated, diligent, struggling taxpayer.
The Benefit is not a 'liveable wage' and it is not meant to be, otherwise no one would even bother getting a job but it does prevent people from stealing a loaf of bread to survive. Thank heavens says Nigel.
To summarise - the State provides a survival safety net for all and I still say that if someone chooses to double dip from their employer and the State concurrently, in other words intentionally steal from the taxpayer (the same as a tax avoider) then prosecute them and I wont lose any sleep.
I said to @JONNO "You cannot turn innocent people into criminals" but I should have said "You cannot turn HONEST people into criminals".
21/02/2013 8:46:50 p.m.
Jim Seaview I suppose you approve of the penal transportation to Australia.For crimes such as stealing a loaf of bread Behaviour that otherwise might be criminal is not, when it relates to the preservation of life. Theft of resources to feed a child is not criminal if the alternative is death or extreme hardship for the child. This legislation will bring about the most extraordinary hardship." It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it. " Jonno is correct, a thief can be innocent.
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