Govt has lost control of ministry - Labour
Fri, 16 Nov 2012 2:19p.m.
The Ministry of Education's plan to cut staff in its payroll unit shows the Government has lost control of it, Labour says.
Association Education Minister Craig Foss was utterly flabbergasted when he found out about it and thinks the unit needs more resources as it deals with the teacher pay crisis, Fairfax reports.
"Any plan to cut payroll staff numbers is totally out of sync with what the ministry is trying to achieve with the Novopay rollout," he said.
Some school staff haven't been paid for months because of Novopay's error-ridden system and it failed to meet the Government's deadline of Wednesday this week to fix the problems.
Public Service Association national secretary Brenda Pilott says the ministry intends cutting the number of positions in the payroll unit from 23 to 14 when the Novopay system is working properly.
Labour's state services spokesman, Chris Hipkins, says the fact that Mr Foss was flabbergasted shows the Government isn't in control of the ministry.
"It simply defies belief that the ministry would begin a restructure involving the very staff tasked with fixing the mess," Mr Hipkins said on Friday.
"And those waiting for their pay will rightly be outraged when they learn the minister in charge doesn't seem to know anything about it."
Mr Hipkins says Mr Foss signed off on the implementation of the Novopay system and then lost control of the debacle that followed.
"The buck stops with the minister, Craig Foss can't keep dodging around the issue," he said.
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21/11/2012 1:35:44 p.m.
What does the labour court has to say about this. Is it worth any personal grievence cases. Where has the system been used before. Talent2 should be making compensation, epic fail.
17/11/2012 11:04:00 a.m.
What planned strikes?? Neither union has planned any strikes that I'm aware of. Honestly it's not the schools who are making the mistakes it's at the other end when Talent2 receives that data. The ministry is hiding behind Talent2. If the Ministry were serious abot ensuring that everyone got paid correctly then surely the error rate wouldbe down by now.
16/11/2012 8:47:44 p.m.
@ Mike - seriously, where are you getting your evidence that teachers (or, rather, teacher's unions) are planning strikes in the lead-up to the next election?
As I pointed out to you in another thread on this site, the problems are more likely to be with Novopay than with schools since the way in which schools send in pay information hasn't changed, but the company that handles that information has.
16/11/2012 6:19:27 p.m.
Lets find out where the problems are.Seams 3 likely suspects:- Schools- Ministry- Novopay/Talent2Now if I designed a payroll system, then it would be the schools inputing 99% of data, less hands = less errors. Where are the errors coming from? If its the schools it could be a planned union thing, to go with their planned strikes 2013-2014 leading to the next election.If anyone is doing such a shoddy job, their heads need to roll with whoever is doing the shoddy input giving the errors, be it schools/ministry/Talent2.We could do with the media doing a little digging to find what is causing the errors vs just complaining that there are errors. With new systems, it tends to be 99% input errors vs 1% system design errors, so my money is on the errors coming from either the schools or minstry staff entering data. This amount of errors means its either deliberate, or such shoddy work we need to replace whoever is making the shoddy errors.
16/11/2012 5:43:39 p.m.
It's not Craig Foss who should be fronting for such an important issue, it's the minister herself. What could possibly be a more important focus for her attention than this issue?
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