Govt moves to punish racists on the internet

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Wed, 24 Aug 2011 5:58a.m.

Denying the Holocaust could be illegal

Denying the Holocaust could be illegal

The Government is considering joining an international agreement which would make posting racist messages online illegal.

As part of a plan to crack down on international crime, the Government may sign the Council of Europe's Convention on Cybercrime, which would make racist or xenophobic comments on the internet illegal.

It also means denial or justification of the Holocaust would be against the law.

Yesterday's announced crack down on organised crime by Justice Minister Simon Power and Police Minister Judith Collins included signing the convention.

Forty-six nations have signed the agreement, but 16 are yet to ratify it into law, including the UK and Ireland.

Race relations conciliator Joris de Bres says online forums provide an easy outlet for racial slurs because they are so often anonymous.

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25 Sep 2011 08:15a.m.

Kenneth S. Doig PhD wrote:



"Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists".

"On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution."

"The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital. Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty."

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25 Sep 2011 08:11a.m.

Kenneth S. Doig PhD wrote:

www.proto-germanic.com
"Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists".

"On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution."

"The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital. Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty."

"The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument (people are souless instruments to be used. KSD) of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women."

“There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.” (what else need be said?)

"If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class".

"But these Socialist and Communist publications contain also a critical element. They attack every principle of existing society. Hence, they are full of the most valuable materials for the enlightenment of the working class. The practical measures proposed in them — such as the abolition of the distinction between town and country, of the family, of the carrying on of industries for the account of private individuals, and of the wage system, the proclamation of social harmony, the conversion of the function of the state into a more superintendence of production — all these proposals point solely to the disappearance of class antagonisms which were, at that time, only just cropping up, and which, in these publications, are recognised in their earliest indistinct and undefined forms only. These proposals, therefore, are of a purely Utopian character."

(Chapt. II, Communist Manifesto)http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

"[..In what way does the proletarian differ from the slave?..]..

..[..Answer: The slave is sold once and for all, the proletarian has to sell himself by the day and by the hour. The slave is the property of one master and for that very reason has a guaranteed subsistence, however wretched it may be. The..].." (the f&6cking slave is never paid so he does not get the fruits of his labor from the first sale. And if he did get the money, he would rather get paid over and over, daily, monthly, yearly..! KSD)

05 Sep 2011 08:22p.m.

Claygirl wrote:

Craig you hit it right on the head.
These laws are just to punish us , and for proof of that ask if the Human Rights law will be used to get Marg Mutu in the dock for her blatantly contemptuous comment about whites.

05 Sep 2011 07:34p.m.

Luigi wrote:

Guys! What can WE do to teach the CENSORS and Brainwashers a real lesson?!

05 Sep 2011 06:48p.m.

Kenneth S. Doig wrote:

All at the urging of one little tribe. If western gov'ts do this, they'll turn off a way for like-minded people to harmlessly vent their frustration, they are foment violence. These governments are no better than The Sovieg Union or China. Your guidelines are so PC & restrictive, they suck. Take away our cherished western freedoms all at the behest of one little group, the Khazars. Govern,net in the UK, NZ, USA, Canada, has no concern for it's white citizens and takes its orders from that little state in the Levant. Kenneth.S. Doig ....you know what, youre never gonna print tis, so fuck zionist/Marxist Jews(only the Zionist ones & their gentile sycophants and fuck you

04 Sep 2011 08:21p.m.

Ragey_kiwi wrote:

The Labour Lite 2.0 party in govt has just made many people in New Zealand get VPN's to further download because of an outdated ripoff television system with the main reason of meeting the Americans demands Now this Govt wants to put in place a law that banns freedom of speech on the internet that they know nothing about or don't know how it works.How can they trace IP's of users when using a VPN & how can they police this? who will pay? What a laughable bunch in the beehive. So if this Anti democratic Govt wants to ban freedom of speech on a network they know nothing about how it works, then how can they bann book sales.

04 Sep 2011 08:19p.m.

Craig wrote:

So I take it the Maori Party's website is to be shut down? This repulsive law will only be targeted at whites anyway. Maoris, Muslims and the rest are always allowed to say what they like and cry victim in defense.

04 Sep 2011 05:00p.m.

H wrote:

And to think that National once had a minister of anti political correctness

01 Sep 2011 06:20p.m.

Marco wrote:

There were countless pictures of the Weapons of Mass Destruction --but it was a sham too.
Get back to issue. Real Q is: Would you see people in jail for questioning / discussing / expressing ?

01 Sep 2011 09:27a.m.

FAIL wrote:

@ May/Yukio... WTF, there are PICTURES that showed what happened! You can visit Auschwitz! the government shouldn't have to continually prove to IDIOTS that the Holocaust happened..