Greens scorn child abuse sanctions
Thu, 07 Jun 2012 5:04a.m.
Sanctions the Government is considering against child abusers won't work because the complex issue of family violence isn't being addressed, the Greens say.
Social Development Minister Paula Bennett says "hard-hitting" measures are under discussion because the Government has zero tolerance for child abusers.
They include the removal at birth of any more babies convicted child abusers have, which could be ordered by a judge at sentencing.
Greens co-leader Metiria Turei says it's a populist move.
"She's had her latest cheap thrill at the expense of real policy," Ms Turei said.
"She is so busy blaming children and mothers that she is not addressing the fact that thousands of women and children cry out for help each year and are not getting it."
Ms Turei says all the professionals who deal with family violence should be brought together to work out strategies and goals.
"To achieve that there needs to be political leadership, not cheap shots."
Ms Bennett told reporters on Wednesday convicted child abusers, even those who killed their own children, could have more babies and whether they were allowed to keep them was decided case by case.
"We don't even do that when dogs are abused," she said.
"People can't own a dog for two years or five years, but we don't do that for children."
She says she wants to get a clear message across to child abusers - if they have more babies, they won't be allowed to keep them.
Labour MP Annette King says laws are already in place that allow the state to remove babies from their parents.
"The government has been talking about acting against child abuse for four years and hasn't done anything," she said on Radio New Zealand.
"We think this is just talk to take the heat off other issues."
Maori Party MP Te Ururoa Flavell says it would be "going too far" and although he hasn't seen details he doubts his party could support it.
ACT's John Banks is yet to comment, saying he needs to know more about the issue first.
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3/08/2012 10:43:58 a.m.
Three girls have an opinion wrote:
We think that this is b.s because while we are all arguing about this there are 15 out of 100 children still being abused. People that are going to get the snip are still going to abuse children even if its not their own. So john key your the man that runs our country and your not doing anything about. These are the next generation and nothing is happening still.
15/06/2012 8:07:02 p.m.
@Dan.. and how do you suggest would sterilizing people address the issue of child abuse ? No one has the right to force sterilization on anyone, regardless of who or what you are. Really these views are dangerous and barbaric. Remember, words are powerful. Abuse must stop, but in order to stop it you suggest physically abusing a woman's body? These views encourage violence and abuse. What about castrating men that use violence towards woman and/ or children, or making alcohol illegal when it is involved in a lot of abuse cases, I don't suppose you would support that?
15/06/2012 12:31:23 p.m.
The policies under discussion dont go far enough, any person convicted of commiting child abuse or being involved in ANY way should be immediately sterilized.
13/06/2012 6:05:44 a.m.
In order for there to be an abused chid, their need to be a child abuser. Rich or poor this is the only way children can become victims of abuse. The overriding factor is simply, cultural.
8/06/2012 9:50:10 a.m.
Honestly, it is as if none of you actually read the article. The Greens are saying that the policy is hot air, courts already have these powers. It's just a distraction from the govts terrible PR last week. Bennett has done nothing to stem abuse in our communities, the stats have gotten worse under her watch. We need real policy not just "cheap thrills".
7/06/2012 10:41:43 p.m.
Leading cause of child abuse, poverty. you natz won't address the cause, just another shifty stunt. This policy leads to selective breeding policy, that is of course, if this government CHOSE to count the FULL cost to public.
7/06/2012 10:34:03 p.m.
And just when I thought the Greens were becoming credible. So they want us to keep standing by while losers breed and abuse their kids. Too PC for their own good.
7/06/2012 7:29:04 p.m.
In the 1940's the nazis started a campaign of selective breeding.. killing people (men women and children) that they despised.
People dont seem to realise how close these policies come to each other.
These policies are only ever fueled by loathing hatred and bigotry.
Yes I believe kids should be taken away (however cyfs wont make their lives any better).
The negative statistics related to state care are truely abysmal... whether a child is taken into care straight away or later in life.
Other parties have previously used sterialisation laws and abused them in New Zealands history.
What makes you think politicians wouldnt abuse their power again?.
Too many right wing nazi's in New Zealand these days.
7/06/2012 2:12:10 p.m.
Lets not forget that most of the children badly hurt or killed come from homes that have had no connection to cyf's prevously and on any assesment proir to the abuse would be just like 200000+ other homes in NZ..We need policy that adresses the problems, not more ambo at the bottom of the cliff crap. Cfs already (as others have pointed out) has powers to do what is being suggested when required.
7/06/2012 1:17:43 p.m.
About time a poltiician grew some globes (figure of speech for those of you with their funny bone removed along with their spine). How do you to identify and change the hostile abuses and the cycles existing in the families and communities? With a huge amount of support - CYF, family support, family planning, women's refuge, hotlines, religious support groups and many more the band-aids are all in place. And don't forget the males. "every one want's the best for their child" rubbish. The ones in question are the ones that do not care, don't want the baby or can not afford to and bounce them around family members in a situation where the abuse cycle exists. Go Paula!!! for keeping that backbone straight. You and Judith Collins keep the other softies in-line.
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