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Fri, 20 Jan 2012 5:17a.m.

A third of smokers have a hazardous drinking pattern, much higher than that of non-smokers

A third of smokers have a hazardous drinking pattern, much higher than that of non-smokers

By Dave Williams

The government should consider alcohol law changes as part of the battle against smoking after studies show New Zealand smokers are two-and-a-half times more likely to be binge drinkers, the researchers say.

They say "hazardous" or heavy binge drinking makes it harder for people to quit smoking and more alcohol control, while reducing the damage done by booze, could also help the government's commitment to make the country smokefree by 2025.

The study was conducted by Otago University's Nick Wilson, along with experts from Australia and the US, and will be published in the Medical Journal as part of the International Tobacco Control Project.

It surveyed 1376 smokers and found a third of them had a hazardous drinking pattern, much higher than that of non-smokers in the survey - 13.1 percent.

Heavy drinking was more common in younger, male and Maori smokers.

"The problematic aspect is that since most smokers want to quit, and here, because of the high occurrence of hazardous drinking in the New Zealand situation, they have difficulty quitting," Associate Professor Wilson told NZ Newswire.

Smoking is estimated to cost $1.9 billion in direct costs to the health sector, but the social cost has been estimated as high as $22.5bn.

The researchers recommend lawmakers explore:

* Higher alcohol taxation, given some evidence that tobacco consumption has been found to decline with higher alcohol taxes.
* Raising the legal alcohol purchase age. US evidence shows this reduces adolescent smoking.
* Explore policies to further decouple smoking and drinking by making the outdoor seating areas around cafes and pubs smokefree.
* Consider additional funding health services to to address both heavy drinking and smoking cessation together.

In 2010 the Law Commission urged the Government to hike alcohol prices by an average of 10 percent and raise the drinking age to 20. But Prime Minister John Key ruled out a tax increase and said raising the age would be a conscience vote.

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23 Feb 2012 06:37p.m.

Shaun wrote:

"Either make it illegal, or stop creating stories about something that's legal to do" Those definitely aren't my words. Personally, THIS Shaun believes opponents to greater controls on tobacco pay lip service to the number of deaths and all the other harm caused by these tacks. The important point was that in the study, levels of hazardous drinking are 20% greater among smokers than non-smokers. Tobacco as a legal substance doesn't render it innocuous, no matter how ignorant you are. If anything, your ignorance of the harms makes it more harmful. These are not 'stories', but outcomes of sustained periods of consumption, and I endorse moves to reduce these real effects. One of the choices available to smokers is to put their heads in the sand, as evidenced by previous comments.

15 Feb 2012 08:51a.m.

Global Conscience wrote:

Another easy kick in the pants for smokers. Why is it a battle? If the medical fraternity had idesputable proof of every claim against tobacco, then surely the cry from them would be louder to ban the product until it is proven to be safe to use.
It is discrimination pure and simple.
Here's a statistic for you. Smoking is blamed in 20% of the deaths in New Zealand, but the rate of smokers is 21%. Therefor you are more likely to die from being a non smoker.
People have the right to choose how they live their life. If all the non smokers just mionded their bloody business and the government stopped rogering exhorbitant amounts of excise from them, their standard of living would improve, as wiould the survival rate.
Smokers do not complain baout the non smoking habits. Leave them alone and allow them to choose.

31 Jan 2012 07:10a.m.

WhoKnew wrote:

Aluminium coated pills for children to destroy their brains.

26 Jan 2012 04:19p.m.

Mark wrote:

I know a few people who don't smoke but when they get a bit of alcohol in them they start smoking. I smoke but don't drink alcohol at all. The govemment should look at banning alcohol before they ban smoking because there are alot more problems related to drinking then smoking, for example I can finish awhole pack of smokes jump in my car and be able to control it. The list goes on, fighting loud parties, spiked drinks that lead to other things. NZ has a big problem with drinking and almost everyone turns a blind eye to it. And why is there drinking aloud at sporting events? I live right across the road from a park and every time there is a game on there is all ways a piss up after, and it doesn't matter if it's children playing or adult and then they drive home with no police in sight. Maybe the govemment should open there eyes and stop picking on us smokers there are other things in this life to worry about than someone with a smoke in their mouth after all it is their mouth and their body we know what we are doing. One last thing to think about my great grandfather smoked since he was 5 and died at 98 and dnt from cancer then there's my friends mother she died from cancer at the age of 50 something and never ever touched a smoke in her life.

24 Jan 2012 06:33p.m.

James Growley wrote:

Its about time those who are so free with statistics in this country are compelled to show how they are arrived at and the primary evidence used to arrive at them. Nowhere do I see the actual evidence of smoking cooking oil being more carcinogenic than tobacco in any statistics and how that plays a part in lung cancer in this country. Actual evidence shows that this is the major cause of lung cancer in Asian people who have never smoked tobacco.

22 Jan 2012 12:58a.m.

Alex wrote:

@Alfred. There are other factors that attribute to cancer rates not just alcohol and smoking. Phillipines is a third world country with 94 million people living in poverty, they have fewer doctors and hospitals per capita and no welfare. Poverty is going to kill them well before any cancers reach their bodies.

20 Jan 2012 10:51p.m.

Nige wrote:

Hell i drink more now that i have given up smoking, than i used to when i smoked, so where do they get there stats from

20 Jan 2012 01:55p.m.

Alfred Rosenberg wrote:

Why make it part of the tobacco project? In the Philippines, three quarters of the population smoke (that includes children) but the annual rate of cancer (1 in 1800) is only one seventh of New Zealand's rate of cancer (1 in 250), where 21% of the ADULT population smoke. So what makes the Philippines so different to NZ? NZ has an Alcohol problem...

20 Jan 2012 01:23p.m.

vik wrote:

there should be a like button....because i liked all above comment's, picking on the public has gone beyond the joke. maybe we should bring in the lenching law for the goverment, i am sick of paying the price for their ignorance and stupidity.

20 Jan 2012 12:14p.m.

Nita wrote:

This is bureaucracy gone mad. Where is the freedom of speech and our own rights as a human being in this country. No one is perfect. Alcohol does more damage to one's body, violence and breakups amongst families and crimes in this country. Most people who smoke like myself work hard, don't drink to get drunk, and are responsible citizens in this country and pay our fair share of taxes. I will not have someone dictating to me how I should live my life! Those of you that criticise should have a look at your own lives and your own bad vices in life. Maybe we should tax your pleasures in life and make you feel like a lepper. Most smokers are considerate. I say leave them alone!This is just goverment revenue collecting!Concentrate on getting plunket into the homes to every single household with a child from birth at least every month, until that child is a year old. And just maybe our children who do fall through the cracks may just get a chance in life. Some parents do not have the skills to care for their baby for what ever reason. They also need help. Spend more time and money in that area.