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Images from today's march (NZPA)

Images from today's march (NZPA)

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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 2:57p.m.
By Dan Satherley / NZPA 
 
Between 4000 and 5000 people are marching through central Auckland this afternoon, urging the Government to act on referenda.

The "March for Democracy" along Queen Street was organised to protest the Government's failure to respond to three citizens-initiated referendums, including one calling for the repeal the so-called anti-smacking legislation.

Protesters are bearing placards aimed at Prime Minister John Key, some reading "JK listen to me" and "JFK, John Fuhrer Key".

Auckland businessman Colin Craig funded the march to the tune of $450,000.

He said the march is focusing on the Government's failure to respond to referendums on reducing the number of MPs; a more victim-centred justice system; and amending the anti-smacking legislation.

He said the march was demanding the smacking law be changed so that a light smack was not a criminal offence.
 
However a review of the "anti-smacking" law by Ministry of Social Development head Peter Hughes found no increase in the number of parents being investigated or prosecuted.

Pranksters infiltrated the crowd, carrying signs reading "Violence = Love", "Hit my baby one more time", and calling for the return of TV show Dancing With the Stars and for a referundum on singer Carly Binding.
 
The protest also attracted groups with other interests, such as Maori sovereignty activists and Grey Power.

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Comments [11]

Craig Young
23 Nov 2009 3:18p.m.

Exactly what is so "democratic" about attacking the rights of vulnerable others- childrens rights to freedom from nonviolent parenting, same-sex marriage or the rights of illegal immigrants to use of social services in the United States?

This liberal believes in democracy. Authentic, real democracy that is, not potty plebiscites from the social conservative/rent a bigot/grievance industry.

Let's have a proper written constitution instead of these pointless circular soundbytes.

David
23 Nov 2009 2:34p.m.

I can now confidently confirm what I've known all along - liberals don't believe in democracy. They'll stifle it if it means pushing their own 'protect the weaklings' agenda, and maybe they're right - democracy is bad. Having said that, let's use the merits of autocracy to stifle their own obnoxious views.

John
22 Nov 2009 3:25p.m.

I was there yesterday. I saw the few infiltrators mingle in and counter-protest against the primary course for the protest. To me this was an undemocratic and disrespectful act to do. M intend to infiltrate and undermine the next liberal protest and

Craig Young
22 Nov 2009 3:03p.m.

TV3, I am concerned that you didn't interview prominent critics of the concept of Binding Citizens Referenda, like Sir Geoffrey Palmer and electoral law specialist Andrew Geddis. Could you perhaps do so in the intermediate future, either on 3 News or one of your current affairs programmes?

Added to which, someone needs to ask Garth McVicar how we can have greater severity in criminal justice policy (a laudable aim) and continual referenda, given that it will cost money to recruit, train and pay additional corrections staff and build new facilties for additional prisoners as a consequence of that greater severity. I'd prefer the greater severity without the referenda, myself...

Dan
22 Nov 2009 10:47a.m.

Hahahaha! "Are we walking too slow?" They're so stupid they can't even walk and hold a sign at the same time. All that money and they only got a few thousand! FAIL!

garth
21 Nov 2009 9:25p.m.

You're all barking mad and you can't spell.

Kelly
21 Nov 2009 7:53p.m.

A SCARY THEORY DEANE!?

Lucy
21 Nov 2009 7:34p.m.

It's so funny watching New Zealand's bogan and trash elite moan. I bet it was a quiet day at The Warehouse.

Deane
21 Nov 2009 6:35p.m.

What we see here is the reality of making promises while in opposition to decisions you have to make when you are in government.

There is a cloud between what we see as democracy, to governance.

Governance is about making decisions that may not necessary please the masses, this conflicts with our perception of democracy.

The referendum about the anti smacking, number of politicians and victim centred justice are populist views, but would be a complemented and utter disaster to society if implemented.

We have the highest prison rates in the OECD. In fact under both Labour and National, prison rates increased. Why? Because we believe that throwing away the key and lock them up is the answer.

The Anti smacking argument rules that it is OK to use "soft" violence to discipline children, yet scientific evidence shows the complete opposite.

Children learn that violence is a means of showing whose boss in their adult world.

Then we go to the number of MPS in parliament. How can democracy and representation work if we have a limited number of MPS?

The reality is that National promised and politicised on all these issues, knowing that the reality is that its impossible to create that balance.

Adult Hitler campaigned on these very same issues, and looked what happened.

CliveA
21 Nov 2009 5:42p.m.

Typical left wing reporting - ignoring the facts of how the MAJORITY of people in NZ voted in the referenda! So now we don't believe in majority rule? So why did we protest for it to be instituted in South Africa?

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