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Teachers allow their students to call them by their first name at some primary schools in Wellington

Teachers allow their students to call them by their first name at some primary schools in Wellington

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Fri, 04 Dec 2009 5:38p.m.
By Emma Joliff

A Wellington academic is ruffling the feathers of some primary schools in Wellington where students address teachers by their first names.

He says the practice threatens discipline and that titles help children understand boundaries.

Like all classes at Berhampore Primary School, the students in the Montessori class address their teacher by his first name; it is something Richard Goodyear says helps his interaction with pupils

“I think if there was a title in front of my name, if I was Mr Goodyear, I would consider that quite a separation between the children and myself, and that actually may be harder to get a good class community going,” he says.

And the pupils agree.

“I really think it's a nice thing, it's not too long and it's not boring,” says pupil Siobhan.

Being on first-name terms with your teacher is not new; some schools have been allowing such familiarity for many years.

But anthropologist James Urry warns using titles like Mr or Mrs is an important part of creating boundaries for children; boundaries that are undermined by using first names.

“It has the potential to alter the relationship between teachers and pupils in terms of authority and control,” says Mr Urry.

Control that becomes more difficult as children get older.

“Most secondary schools would not allow their pupils to call their teachers by their first name, which makes it a puzzle why some primary schools are doing this,” he says.

But the principal of Berhampore School, Mark Potter, who also goes by his first name, says authority and respect are about much more than a title.

“My experience is you can call yourself Sir Galahad, and the respect comes from the interaction, not the name, not the title.”

He says Mr Urry has got it wrong.

“I hear more worries than facts.”

He says parents like it too.

The Ministry of Education does not have a policy on the matter and says it is up to individual Boards of Trustees to set the policy on how students should address their teachers.

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Comments [10]

Brick
16 Feb 2010 6:21p.m.

But what about the teacher at one of these first name schools who wants to be called Mr X or Miss Y?

Don't they have say?
Can't they decide what they want the children to call them?

It is bulling if the principal's policy is to insist on first names. "Accept this or go somewhere else."

cherie
07 Dec 2009 2:12p.m.

Yes you can call them buy their first names. You can also throw chairs at them, swear at them and generally abuse them.
Sorry to sound so old but in the "old days" children called the teachers Sir and Mame like they still do in private schools and they didn't and don't have the out of control behaviour that is currently in our state schools.
We already have teacher panic buttons in schools and this can only get worse with the respect for teachers being eroded surely?

Jan..
05 Dec 2009 9:06p.m.

Star' please refer to my last comments and exkiwi's comments..

star
05 Dec 2009 4:56p.m.

I went to a primary school where all the teachers were called by their first names, and i still learnt about respect and authority- at first of course i thought it was perfectly normal, then as i got older i noticed friends from other schools called their teachers "miss" or "sir", and i thought about it a bit more. i think it made me feel more on equal terms with a teacher- not that i could run the school or anything, just that they weren't incredibly special when it came to expressing an opinion... they weren't superior as such. this doesn't mean they didn't get respect from their students. we still understood that they were our teachers, our elders, they ran the show and they were ultimately responsible for us during school. what's so wrong with kids learning from a young age that everyone is equal?

ex-kiwi
05 Dec 2009 8:11a.m.

And we wonder why kids have no respect for adults...another example of adults wanting to be 'friends' with kids rather than teaching them boundaries and how to be responsible, polite adults!!

Jan..
05 Dec 2009 7:03a.m.

Called the teachers, 'teacher paul or 'teacher susan is more appropriate than just the teachers first name..We must keep the teachers identity as 'teacher..

The Panda
05 Dec 2009 6:29a.m.

As Kathy has put it, another PC milestone. There is no respect now and this will make it even worse. What happens if these children decide later in life to go into the forces and their Sergent pulls them up? Are they going to say 'Wassup Jimbo?' You can see what is going to happen huh?

Kathy
04 Dec 2009 10:17p.m.

This is yet another PC milestone!

Kiwi
04 Dec 2009 9:02p.m.

I don't think using first names is such a bad thing, but it should still be used in line with a certain respect. Students should still be expected to use the titles sir and miss as appropriate out of simple respect for adults. It's just polite to say thank you sir/miss/ma'am at the shop or elsewhere, sadly something you rarely hear these days.

Skip
04 Dec 2009 8:07p.m.

Why not call the teachers by their nicknames. We had a teacher whose nickname would have been 'Dunny'.

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