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Paula Bennett

Paula Bennett

Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:37a.m.

Revelations of high spending beneficiaries - including a family with gang connections paid hundreds of thousands of dollars over 25 years including money to fence a pool - were worrying, Prime Minister John Key said this morning.

Newspapers today reported details provided to them by Social Development Minister Paula Bennett of more than 300 families who draw about $1000 a week in benefits. An audit of the group was started earlier in the year.

The cases are being publicised before the Government brings in previously announced tough new measures next year which will impact on many beneficiaries including: work-testing for domestic purpose beneficiaries whose youngest child has turned six; compulsory budgeting advice sessions for beneficiaries who claim frequent grants; and part-time work obligations for some sickness and invalid beneficiaries.

The Government would suspend or reduce benefits for those who refuse to comply with requests to attend work interviews or take up work opportunities.

Fairfax newspapers reported Marcia Harris and her husband, former gang leader Darryl Harris, have claimed unemployment and sickness benefits continuously since 1984.

Three of the couple's four children are on benefits. The family got $30,000 in special-needs grants since 2000, including $16,000 in the past two years. Grants went towards car tyres and a pool fence at one of several properties the family owns in Christchurch.

Mr Key said most beneficiaries needed the money but there were exceptions.

"That's one of the things that worries me about the system," he told Newstalk ZB this morning.

While the bulk of recipients needed their benefits and did not abuse the system the Government would implement changes to crack down on those who abused it, he said.

The Harris family got the money for the pool fence saying they needed it in order to sell the property.

Mr Harris gets a sickness benefit and attempts to stop it recently failed when a Work and Income designated doctor said he was addicted to cannabis.

Ms Harris has been told to repay some benefits including one to pay for her car to be released after being impounded. She was driving without a licence at the time.

Work and Income paid for the family to spend 10 nights at a Christchurch hotel, the Towers on the Park, in 2007 after their Islington home burnt down, a review of the family's case found.

Since then the family has been transferred to a special "remote monitoring" unit. The unit deals with Work and Income clients deemed too dangerous for face-to-face meetings with staff.

The grants have continued, with three of the six special-needs grants applied for last month by the Harris family accepted by Work and Income.

The New Zealand Herald reported 13 of the 20 highest-paid beneficiaries, and almost one-third of those who get more than $1000 a week from the state, were looking after other people's children.

The highest paid was a single person on the East Coast, who gets $1720 a week, mostly in orphans and unsupported children's benefits to care for nine children.

The second is a married Northland person, getting $1700 a week to care for 10 children, most from other parents.

The 323 beneficiaries being audited have an average of five children, 97 were looking after other children as extended family or foster parents.

The third-highest payment went to grandparents caring for eight children, including those of their son. The grandfather was also being paid the invalids benefit.

Six of the top 50 had benefits reduced after the review, usually because a child had left their care or extra work cash was coming in.

Only one of the top 50 had since gone off the domestic purposes benefit into full-time work, although several were in training or study.

NZPA

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Comments [23]

Fish face
25 Mar 2010 12:19p.m.

i agree with Warren, this is another diversionary tactic designed to take our attention away from what is really going on. Having lived in the Uk I saw all this waffle there - blah blah immigrants, blah blah council house mums, blah blah work shy loafers with six bedroom houses paid for by the taxpayers, blah blah. The press loved it, because the press are owned by the handful of elitists who become richer and more powerful as we worry about someone receiving $142 a week. Wake up New Zealand. What are your national leaders and big corporates doing while you waste your time beating beneficiaries. Ask yourself why cleaners and other similar manual workers do back breaking work receive minimum wage while suits who sit drinking coffee in meetings all day get paid three times as much (or the elite earn way more for encouraging us to turn against each other while they do they little deals behind closed doors). Baaaa baaaa...

beneficiary
07 Feb 2010 12:31a.m.

Good on you Paula – breaching confidentiality again and inciting more Beneficiary bashing. Considering Paula Bennett spent a considerable amount of time on the DPB, she of all people should know how difficult it is to raise a child on the benefit (unless of course, she was also ripping off the system).

I was at WINZ one day and saw a woman asking for money for a new car as hers wasn’t road-worthy anymore. Her case manager said (and I quote) “I know you don’t rip us off so yes”. Often it comes down to who you see on the day… I have never seen the same rule across the board for beneficiaries. It’s almost a case of ‘not what you know but who you know’ when it comes to WINZ.
Some of us are legitimate – I get less than $400p/wk with a 17yr old son who attends a course (he is not a beneficiary). When I asked for a food grant about 6mths ago, the woman I saw told me that $60 was ample to feed myself and my son for the week.

Finding a job is not as easy as you seem to think. Especially when a marriage fails and we’ve been out of work for some time. Employers’ aren’t at all interested unless we are applying to go on the assembly line.

I do not agree with working for the dole however. If they want us to work for the dole, then at least pay us the minimum wage otherwise it’s slave labour which local councils will happily take advantage of.

Dan
26 Jan 2010 11:28a.m.

Cherie nobody is vilifying the rich for being rich or having more than the others, just the government's prejudice towards the lower/middle income earners who are always at the receiving end. When did you last hear of a struggle for survival from the rich folks of NZ? The Welfare system as it is, it's a failure. People working hard and paying taxes are going to be burdened with more taxes whilst bludgers get the benefits? Does that sound ok to you and make any logical sense?

cherie
21 Jan 2010 1:34p.m.

And what is wrong with people having money.
Should they have to give it to poor people.

Yes there needs to be a welfare system. I would also like to see amounts increase but
It is meant to be a hand up not hand out.
Get the ones that are milking it sorted and then there will be more to give the others and with that they can get off welfare quicker I am certain

Alex
02 Jan 2010 3:03p.m.

"Me and wifey work our butts off,pay our dues to society, facing ever increasing bills with 2 kids to feed,cloth and educate and no increase in salaries/income at all for past 2 years and absolutely NO ASSISTANCE from the government." The problem isn't people receiving benefits - not even the people who could legitimately be called "bludgers" like the Harrises. The problem is the distribution of wealth in this country. Since the 1980s the wealthiest 1 or 2% have seen a massive increase in their incomes, while everyone else has seen their income stagnate. Ordinary New Zealanders are missing out on economic growth to which they rightfully deserve a share.

Dan
30 Dec 2009 1:41p.m.

Mine is a similar story in here to many. Me and wifey work our butts off,pay our dues to society, facing ever increasing bills with 2 kids to feed,cloth and educate and no increase in salaries/income at all for past 2 years and absolutely NO ASSISTANCE from the government. How does this all end? A civil unrest or electing a new govt. Jim unless you spell it out what you have in your mind you wont make a difference. We need committee's of common tax payer folk to head this department, not a bludger like Paula Bennett. Sometimes the attrocities committed in 3rd world countries seem better than the crap we face in this country on a daily basis. Cops are frustrated with crappy laws, deficient justice system, small economy, piddly salaries and a substandard quality of life for most whilst this country has both the capability and possiblity of providing a very high standard. But alas the reality is different.

Ty Williams
24 Dec 2009 9:24p.m.

right or wrong I'll leave to other posts to decide. That the leak came from the ministers office is cause for greater concern in my view.

Anrath
23 Dec 2009 1:39p.m.

Yes Phil, this is about enraging the public so that come February National will move to make policies harsher for all beneficiaries and not just those screwing the system.

The Waipareira trust is run by John Tamahere, and employs Donna Awatere-Huata.

Nearly every year since they have started their programme the government.. both Labour and National have done financial probes into the trust because of the suspicion that their monetary practices are a little faulty.

Now they want to hand over welfare to a group that has a shady history at best, particularly since Donna Awatere-Huata was done for stealing public funds.

Of the 300 people they investigated... Harris was the main person the showed the public... in many cases National had to remove alot of people that they investigated from the list because they were primarily state caregivers for foster children.

This was a witch hunt to scare New Zealand into letting them implement changes like cutting off the dole every 12 months... I wouldnt even be suprised to hear about upcoming benefit cuts like they did in the 90's when they last pulled this stunt.

This is about Paula Bennett and John Key manipulating NZ and encouraging benefit bashing by the uninformed.

Harris does need to be gotten rid of, but that he is there comes done to slack public servants,

James
22 Dec 2009 7:38p.m.

Living in a small town, which has many on the dole and various benefits I see the hardship daily of those struggling to provide for their families, and trying to keep old cars roadworthy just to take family members to the Hospital or Doctors... I deal with WINS grants which are usually fair and give much needed assistance. It makes my blood boil to see much needed and appreciated funds wasted on those who don't require it. There are many who could do with a little more assistance and serious job training so they can, in the future, become self sufficent.. I personally have assisted at least six young ones in this field and they are now working and paying taxes. Working for the dole helps develop a good work ethic, whereas lying in bed waiting on dole day doesn't...Without training children will follow in their parents footsteps and this family is a classic example. Many becoming 2nd and 3rd generation beneficaries. I personally have raised 6 children and two others also, and all have good paying jobs and are responsible citizens. Unfortunately now when I still have a lot to give my health is deteriorating, but I would dearly like to be a Social Worker!!!...Cheers.

Mel Bird
22 Dec 2009 6:17p.m.

why should people like Darryl Harris & his family receive $1000 from benefits, people like him & his family make me so mad, no wonder there isn't any money for people that actually need it.

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