John Key rejects call for GCSB inquiry
Sat, 29 Sep 2012 7:30a.m.
The Prime Minister says there is no need for an independent inquiry into illegal GCSB spying, despite a call from Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom.
A report by the inspector general of Intelligence and Security, Paul Neazor, has found the Government Communications Security Bureau is to blame for the embarrassing blunder.
But John Key says the fault is being dealt with, so any more inquiries would be pointless.
“There is no conspiracy here. There’s a failure by an individual, there’s a cock-up, but there’s not a conspiracy,” he says.
And Mr Key dismisses claims that the GCSB thought it would be able to get away with the illegal monitoring.
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1/10/2012 12:38:45 p.m.
Unbelievable with Keys position on this to clear his name and prove he did not lie all he has to do is approve an independant inquiry. Unless he has lied of corse? I mean only a fool would want a liar as a PM. I guess the fact he is dead set against an indepentant inquiry says it all really?
30/09/2012 10:30:34 a.m.
@izaac Yes, that’s exactly why we need an inquiry. These guys, as you have pointed out, are usually from the military which has a ‘rank’ system in place – subordinates and superiors and you are told to do a job without question. It’s an archaic system that works very well in war time however can be abused in peace time and used against its own citizens (as one has seen many times in despot countries around the world). A more flexible system where in peace time the rank system is done away with in the intelligence side of the military and government spy departments is preferable. Even though there is a ‘right of recourse ‘in the military if one is made to go against their moral or ethical standards it is discouraged and “yes men” are normally promoted to key roles (pun not intended). Having a built in system where highly ethical, patriotic and independent thinkers are put in positions of control and have ‘rights of recourse’ needs to be looked at. One would now argue that nothing would get done as there would be too many ‘conflicts of opinions’, but an independent inquiry would determine that. The system is open to ‘abuses of power’ as it stands and needs to be looked at!
29/09/2012 8:19:58 p.m.
Tim Casey wrote:
Why is that child above,so worried about a inquiry?has he been lying again and soon to be found out again.He should ship out to Hawaii where he can be covered by his Yank mates.Or have they started to wake up to him also.
29/09/2012 8:01:38 p.m.
OBAMA SPY wrote:
Since 24 June when it was uploaded to Youtube there have been 164,742 views of the interview between John Campbell and Kim Dotcom. 50 dislikes and 3792 likes. In a Herald poll at the end of August 89% of commenters said "refuse to extradite". Opinion today, based on the Campbell Live interview likes and dislikes is 98.7%. Does anyone know the preferred PM poll now compared to end of August? In a poll asking who to extradite can I put my money on Mr Key over Mr Dotcom? Will anyone take me up on that? Barack wants to know
29/09/2012 3:43:58 p.m.
Robert M says: "The really interesting thing is the raid on Dotcom appears to have occurred during the tenure of former head of the PM and Foreign Affairs head Simon Murdoch as head of GCSB. Either he approved or his position and those of GCSB are only nominal impressives who know nothing about electronic spying and ask no questions". 3news.co.nz/No-need-for-GCSB-inquiry---Key/tabid/1607/articleID/270876/Def.aspx
29/09/2012 1:01:22 p.m.
Hmmmm isnt that what spys do spy on people. Be a waste of money to have an inquiry into if spys were spying wouldnt it.
29/09/2012 11:44:10 a.m.
As someone who voted for National in the last election, this is very disappointing. Something is being covered up here is everyone's gut feeling. Most definitely an independent public inquiry is needed.
29/09/2012 11:07:43 a.m.
@jimmy. I agree with everything you have highlighted.
Most signallers involved in defence are well educated with an affinity for language and code recognition and are predominantly recruited for these attributes.
The problem is whom they serve whether they are aware or not, nationalism and patriotism are diluted so completely into global corporate operations and the politicians they support that what we are left with is an ill informed insulated group that honestly believe they are doing the right thing and conditioned into taking authority as the truth rather than the truth as the authority. The only safeguard in the system is the integrity of the Prime Minister and, unfortunately as long as campaign contributions flow from business, installing governments we are doomed further injustices.
29/09/2012 11:00:59 a.m.
When key says 'no need for a policeinvestigation' what is he afraid of?This whole issue has wider implications for the nz public,in so far that if govtsources wished they could spy on a wholerange of citizens and then english or key sign an order that they can't inform the public of anything to do with anything,the tax payers of nz expectations is that honest,reliable,decent actions are taken by govt sources and the dot-com issue illustrates that tax payers are being taken for granted,in every direction by the key govt.
29/09/2012 10:59:16 a.m.
Yeah pointless, Dont mind how they do it. Lock the thief up and take all his ill gottin gains off him.
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