Key refuses to speculate over South Canterbury's future

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Mon, 30 Aug 2010 8:42a.m.

Allan Hubbard

Allan Hubbard

Prime Minister John Key is refusing to speculate ahead of a Cabinet meeting today on whether the Government will bail out troubled South Canterbury Finance (SCF).

SCF owes 20,000 investors about $1.7 billion, and was believed to be running out of cash to pay investors and meet statutory requirements.

It needs a new backer or a cash injection from the Government to avoid receivership.

The $1.7b debentures are covered by the government retail deposit guarantee scheme which means those investors would be paid out by the Government if South Canterbury failed.

The Government has midnight deadline if it has to put up cash to save the company.

AUDIO: RadioLIVE's Marcus Lush talks with Bernard Hickey about whether or not the Government should bail out South Canterbury Finance.

Finance Minister Bill English was expected to brief Cabinet this afternoon about the situation.

Mr Key this morning assured anyone with debentures in the ailing company that their money was safe.

The Government had provisioned $900 million as a potential loss to the finance company sector and South Canterbury had some assets.

"No one can argue the tax payer hasn't stepped up," Mr Key said.

The Government also wanted to minimise any loss incurred by the Crown, he said.

"If mum and dad have their money in then mum and dad will get their money back, in terms of what happens from there...I'm not going to comment on that today."

SCF chief executive Sandy Maier is playing down speculation the beleaguered company is looking for a taxpayer funded rescue plan.

"It's a very long stretch to say ... that represents some kind of capital contribution or bail out or whatever, or that we're negotiating with Treasury for cash contributions or so on," Mr Maier told Radio New Zealand.

"At present there isn't anything like that going on. The only live discussion at the moment is with private sector parties, and taking cognisance of the (retail deposit) guarantee."

Mr Key was unlikely to make an announcement at his weekly post-Cabinet press conference late this afternoon.

SCF president for life and chairman until March, Alan Hubbard said there was a deal on the table to help the firm but it would need government money too.

One of Mr Hubbard's other companies, Hubbard Management Funds, seven charitable trusts, Mr Hubbard himself and his wife, have been put under statutory management.

About 300 investors in Hubbard Management Funds have been told the company overstated its value by at least 25 percent on March 31, reporting non-existent investments and cash balances.

Mr Hubbard disputes the figures.

Labour's commerce spokeswoman Lianne Dalziel said the Government has refused to answer her questions about its intentions over the retail guarantee scheme.

Mr Maier had said SCF was in talks with about five prospective investors, Radio New Zealand reported.

SCF has been searching for a new major shareholder and it has waivers from breaches to its trust deed until tomorrow.

SCF is not affected by the statutory management of Mr Hubbard's affairs.

On Friday the NZX placed a trading halt on securities of SCF, at the company's request. The halt was put in place pending a material announcement by the company.

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09 Sep 2010 05:33p.m.

David wrote:

Well, sometimes bailouts are better than ordinary people losing their savings.

30 Aug 2010 09:05p.m.

tim wrote:

Finance companies are built on confidence. stat managers and the SFO sharing the taxi shattered the confidence in SCF. Maybe it has to go so we can start again. Call it "phoenix finance" or something equally purile.

30 Aug 2010 06:47p.m.

dwayne wrote:

Risk taking activity should not be supported with Govt bailouts. Investment return is based on companies taking on a certain amount of 'risk'. Govt approving support for risky investments sets a standard for other companies to demand taxpayer bailouts when their investments to bad. Anyway where did all the money go and what is stopping SCF from throwing more money in the same hole? It seems as though 'accountability' may become an ethical being of the past.

30 Aug 2010 06:04p.m.

kim wrote:

@lightseed
The fact that the stat managers were appointed to manage the other interests destroyed any confidence any investor might have had in investing in another business managed by Hubbard.
So yes the stat manager takeover has affected the running of this business and its ability to trade itself out of trouble.

30 Aug 2010 02:59p.m.

Helen1 wrote:

When big money goes out it must be replaced and we the average Kiwi and the bank manager aka John Key in all honesty must foot the bill with an xtra $1000 p/p tied to our silver chords- (wallets) Just another bad investment in a failed scheme and like it or not we must support the South Isand the same as they have supported us NI in the past Thats the way the cookie has crumbled...

30 Aug 2010 02:26p.m.

johnmillon wrote:

Fully agree with you Simon

30 Aug 2010 01:53p.m.

lightseed wrote:

no Kim there is not. SCF has nothing to do with hubbard's other interests and have been in financial trouble, looking for further investors since long before SFO got involved with hubbard. Might want to learn what you are talking about Kim.

30 Aug 2010 12:55p.m.

Kim wrote:

There is a suggestion that the finanial difficulties have been compounded by the govt's intervention. The stat managers when in with a brief of "find a problem any problem"
I mean how dare this man operate with integrity and put his customers/investers first. He should have ripped the company to shreads and pocketed multimillion dollar bonuses like the rest of his breatheren instead of actually doing the best for his investers.....Makes the rest of em look bad and National cannot have that can they.

30 Aug 2010 12:25p.m.

Scott wrote:

How come we get treated to all these bad imports? Things and systems brought in to the country that have failed elsewhere, but some idiot (or greedhead) wants to bring the same failure here. Another bad import, like kiln dried timber. Bank bailouts haven't worked in America, except to take money from hard working people and give it to people who gambled and lost. Let these people eat their mistakes and stop increasing my taxes to cover fools!

30 Aug 2010 12:19p.m.

ridley wrote:

Have to agree totally with Simon on this one.