KiwiRail urged to build own trains

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Mon, 03 May 2010 6:43a.m.

KiwiRail was not expected to tender a bid

KiwiRail was not expected to tender a bid

By Kate Chapman

Any international company would have to build Auckland's new electric units and locomotives 62 percent cheaper than they can be produced in New Zealand to outweigh the benefits to the economy and jobs created by local manufacture, according to a report released today.

However, KiwiRail was not even expected to tender a bid.

Thirty-eight electric multiple units and 13 locomotives are needed to improve Auckland's urban rail transport. The manufacturing contract was expected to be around $370 million.

KiwiRail has workshops in Dunedin and Lower Hutt capable of building and maintaining the rolling stock.

The report, commissioned by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union and Dunedin City Council, found 770-1270 full-time equivalent jobs would be created over the construction period, $232-$250 million would be added to gross domestic product, Crown revenue would rise by a net $65-$70 million and the trade balance would benefit by $114-$122 million.

Manufacturing the units and locomotives locally would also develop and maintain the skill base in New Zealand, opening the industry up to the $15 billion international rolling stock industry, BERL said.

It would also allow for ongoing maintenance contracts to remain domestic, and innovation and technology opportunities could spillover into other industries, the report said.

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The Rail and Maritime Transport Union, New Zealand Council of Trade Unions and Dunedin City Council called for the Government to front up with the capital needed to support a bid by KiwiRail.

Dunedin Chamber of Commerce chief executive John Christie said it was about jobs for New Zealand and Dunedin.

"Anything we can do to increase the skills of our workforce has got to be good for the long term future of our country."

Transport Minister Steven Joyce told NZPA it was important for KiwiRail to make the best commercial decision it could.

KiwiRail needed to be free from political pressures, he said.

"My sense is that they think it's too big a commercial risk."

He understood KiwiRail was not intending to enter a bid, they had never done anything similar before and there were international companies with a lot of experience.

"It would be a bit like saying we need a fleet of high-end cars, let's go and get our mechanics to build them instead of buying them off Audi or BMW or somebody who does this sort of stuff for a living."

There was domestic experience and there were opportunities for maintenance contracts and further work if the successful tenderer decided to do other work in New Zealand, Mr Joyce said.

"I think there's definitely work (domestically), but this is at the outer end of what's practical.

"We've just got to take the practical, commercial, sensible outcome and in all honesty got to look at people that have been building these things for a long time."

Rail and Maritime Transport Union general secretary Wayne Butson said the report helped make a strong case to build the trains in New Zealand - both from a job creation view and wider economic benefits.

Labour's transport spokesman Darren Hughes said the Government should listen to the report and keep the jobs in New Zealand.

"The costs of ongoing maintenance could be minimised with the workforce and skills being based in New Zealand and it would also reduce the risk of costs spiralling out of control due to exchange rate volatility."

The Government had been given a "credible plan", Mr Hughes said.

NZPA

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04 May 2010 04:00p.m.

Lets do it wrote:

Lets build the electric trains for Auckland. Lets have them Kiwi made out of Cardboard and paper, We can't use steel,tin, or copper now can we.

04 May 2010 11:36a.m.

Dunc wrote:

Economies of Scale. Fuel costs what it does in this country because of the number of cars per household and road users at any one time. Any Government seen to be encouraging the use of public or non-fossil fuel burning transport, will be held directly responsible for the resulting petrol-price rise from the fall in demand. We can't afford to subsidise petrol (mind you, nor can the US!), so what is the answer?

04 May 2010 08:08a.m.

Helen1 wrote:

"Yes we can" if a Kiwi can Ceo the IMF all those years, a Kiwi invent the infinite battery (ie electic cars), a Kiwi Ceo Microsoft here, and our own war hero Kiwi return home,not to metion our scientists many discoveries either.Its about time we Kiwis stood up and said Yes we have the technology the resources the pwople and skills to do anything. That is our true wealth our country Kiwi has to offer the world. Otherwise the downside is were financially broke but we have the potential to be self supporting. So what are we waiting for?

04 May 2010 12:08a.m.

Helen1 wrote:

Bob the Builder "Yes we can" (about damn time our own came first) If our Mr Wheeler could CEO the IMF for all those years and a Maori create the infinite battery(electric cars) and our war hero Mr Apiata return home the Man now- what does that say about our Kiwis? Of course we can! The resources and engineers are here too. Pacific Steel? Otahuhu-Alcan? Wiri- Glenbrook- Steel and Tube? Wellington. Dont even worry about cars the greatest mechanics that travelled the world are from here too. We are at the Top so what are we waiting for?

03 May 2010 10:31p.m.

Kevin C wrote:

It's rubbish to suggest we can't develop these trains. The design can use the best features of the NZ-built diesel multiple units and the Wairarapa trains. The electric motors, control gear, and some other parts would be purchased from specialist component manufacturers. This is exactly how they have designed and built other trains.

03 May 2010 10:28p.m.

Stephen wrote:

Of course they should be built here. In fact if there not the bubberment should be sacked. If they can't be bothered with NZ made then why should anyone else?

03 May 2010 09:51p.m.

Stuart wrote:

This is the problem with allowing governments to screw things up as they have done from post WW2. Muldoon made the railways run at a loss to under cut trucking. The truckers screwed up a piggy-back system (same as use in the states, for moving truck-trailer units) by physically destroying the wagons to carry the trucks trailer units. When the private entrepreneurs do get to run the railways they haven't got a clue how to operate a rail system and the rail operations are further run down.Other countries can run a good rail system. Don't give me the crap -"that it's NZ geographic nature and small population that's the problem" Mp Joyce doesn't want the likes of Hillside building freight,and passenger cars as he knows there will be no track in the SI to run them north, why, because in the next few years National intends removing track-age from the SI. Good bicycle track for PM Key...eh!

03 May 2010 06:41p.m.

Blair wrote:

Yes without question we should build these here. Why should everything in this country be made in China our country is not called New China Zealand it is New Zealand so make them here create jobs here and let our government set an example for companies like Cadburys and Fisher Paykel. Keep it NZ made. We have a month to promote NZ made music why not a month to promote NZ made stuff.

03 May 2010 05:46p.m.

D Comley wrote:

It is a pipe dream to build these units in NZ. Where would we get the the creative ability to design a new age train and carriage system? The cost of designing and trialing a new product would add exhorbitant cost. It is just not the cost of manufacturing an old technology system.

03 May 2010 05:32p.m.

Glocks wrote:

Dale, I think you're missing the point of the article...we DO have the skills! Unfortunately, there just isn't the political will to make it happen. Typically blinkered NZ approach, where those in charge can't see past any short term savings.