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Labour in the cold over surveillance bill

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Mon, 26 Sep 2011 3:56p.m.

Labour leader Phil Goff

Labour leader Phil Goff

By Lloyd Burr

The Government has left the Labour Party out of any discussions about the temporary surveillance bill that will be introduced to Parliament under urgency tomorrow, despite Labour supporting the bill’s first reading.

Attorney-General Chris Finlayson will introduce the Video Camera Surveillance (Temporary Measures) Bill which will suspend a Supreme Court decision which made illegally-obtained video surveillance by the police inadmissible as evidence.

The National Party says they have the numbers from ACT and United Future for the bill to pass its first reading before it is referred to a special select committee.

Even though Labour support the first reading, they have been left out of any discussions about the bill, with leader Phil Goff saying the Government has “ceased communication” with his party on the issue.

“They have made no effort to talk with us about their legislation and about what they are proposing.

“If it goes to the select committee, we will vote for the first reading of the bill and then we will leave it over to the select committee to hear the evidence,” Mr Goff says.

The Government says the bill will “express Parliament’s intent that any lawful search in which covert video surveillance is used is not unlawful just because of that surveillance”.

The bill will be introduced to the House under urgency and have its first reading tomorrow, and will be referred to the Justice and Electoral Select Committee which will report back next Monday.

Mr Finlayson says the bill does not provide any legal power that did not exist before the Supreme Court decision nor does it overturn the decision.

“It will also preserve the result in that decision for the 13 accused, so that Parliament is not reversing the judgment of any court in a particular case.”

“The Bill is a necessary patch-up to allow surveillance operations involving serious wrong-doing to continue,” he says.

“However, it is important that we do not rush the legislation and we agree with ACT’s proposal for a Select Committee process to allow further input from experts and the public.”

And Mr Goff says he does not want a rushed process either.

“The case for prospective use of the legislation is quite clear, that with proper approval and in warranted circumstances, the police should have covert surveillance powers,” he says.

“Retrospectively, I would be reluctant to do so, I would be particularly reluctant to do it under urgency – I think that makes for bad law – and I would be reluctant to do it unless there was very strong evidence that serious criminal offenders would get off the hook.

“I have seen no such evidence, only that claim that that might be the case,” he says. 

Mr Finlayson says the 50 police operations that were discontinued after the Supreme Court’s decision will be allowed to resume when the bill is passed.

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26 Sep 2011 10:19p.m.

Hamish wrote:

Wiseacre is right, it wont stop here, Key wont stop here. Key has shown us what he thinks of peoples rights with the 90 day bill, next it will be entry and detain without warrant or evidence. We need a legaly binding constitution fast! National voters remember this election this is what you are choosing.

26 Sep 2011 06:37p.m.

JD wrote:

So who are the guardians we should trust then Wiseacre? The criminals who beat, steal and murder innocent citizens, or those weaklings that stand silently aside and allow them to carry out their criminal enterprises under the cloak of civil liberties.

26 Sep 2011 05:50p.m.

Roseanne wrote:

Laws change to reflect the age of the time. What was good 20 years ago may not be appropriate now. Modern surveillance is a point in question. If you have to use this method to detect criminal activity then it may be appropriate and should be legal. Obviously Labour will be voting on the issue and it will be debated and placed before a select committee. The processes of democracy will be followed. There is nothing to fear in th process unless you have something to hide? The Police detected offending using lawful methods but the court has interpreted the letter of the law adversly to this incident and that is what the courts are for, however Parliament has to re interpret what the intent of the act was. We stand to lose our basic freedoms to go about our lives peacefully if serious offending is not detected and brought before the courts.

26 Sep 2011 05:18p.m.

anne wrote:

To exclude labour,the second largest party,is an obvious sign that the nats are drunk with power,and do not believe in democracy,when have the nats been honest with nz,never,this will continue should they win the election,so those who think that his smile is enough to govern with,had better look at the bigger picture and take their rose coloured glasses off.

26 Sep 2011 04:35p.m.

Dorothy wrote:

this is not a democracy,it's a dictatorship and key should be forced to stand down, we are a free country with a PM that thinks he can do what he likes. a law change must involve everyone in parliment to have a say on such an important matter. nz is in danger of losing it's freedom under this dictator.

26 Sep 2011 04:09p.m.

Wiseacre wrote:

The Police are supposed to uphold the law; they do not get to make the law, or break the law. By looking to legitimise and legalise the intentional law-breaking of the New Zealand Police, the National Party is demonstrating that it is not only soft on crime, but that it is also soft on human rights. We need an enforceable Bill of Rights, with supremacy over other legislation. If there is one thing this contemptible situation has shown us, it is that the police and the politicians cannot be trusted as guardians of our fundamental rights.