Latest anti-smoking figures not surprising - ASH

10 Aug 2010 12:05a.m.

David wrote:

I agree, Jim, ASH and other like-minded wowser organizations should cease to exist for the common good. But I also believe people should be made to take responsibility for themselves via non-coercive means and by their own initiative. Having said that, the public health system should not bear the full brunt financially should smokers be hospitalized for smoking related ailments. People have every right to smoke, provided they can personally finance any subsequent health issues that may arise.

09 Aug 2010 08:52a.m.

Jim wrote:

But David, why should I start something I have never done? I just do not get it when people like ASH waste my taxes being busy bodies. Human life is around 60 to 90 years and the earth is 4.5 billion years old so I just don't get what the anti-brigade are after. "When you are born, the only certainty is you will die". Who cares if it is a small milli-sec in earth time and do non-smokers get a little badge from this brigade saying what good people they are? NO. So they should leave them alone and life is what we make it huh. My apologies for the bad language used before!!

07 Aug 2010 11:18p.m.

David wrote:

Jim, you are truly an imbecile, I am not in favor of a smoking ban at all; on the contrary, I fully the support the right of others to smoke, so long as the taxpayer isn't forced to subsidize the subsequent health problems that may arise. Best you go outside and indulge yourself with a durry or two before you publish your ill-informed spoutings and make a fool of yourself. Same goes with Andrew.

06 Aug 2010 05:45p.m.

Andrew wrote:

"Make em pay their way" David:

Smokers, via excise and reduced pension receipts, already subsidise non-smokers.

If you want the price of tobacco to reflect its true economic cost, you'd have to make it cheaper.

06 Aug 2010 08:31a.m.

Jim wrote:

Yeh David (and I don't mean David Jacobs), it is busy bodies like you who join groups like ASH.
Lets see - ASH for smoking, ALAC for drinking, no gambling, no Fast Foods,No cars, No oil products, NO mining , No fossil fuels, No meat - well I see the only thing that would make people like you happy is if we ate grass and lived in trees (really telligent, I'm not because I would like to live my own life and not everyone elses), and PLEASE don't have fun, you might be living,,,,jerk!!!

06 Aug 2010 01:22a.m.

Jan.. wrote:

Tobbaco smokers smell's like ashes it's a disgusting ash smells often smells like corpse..

05 Aug 2010 04:23p.m.

David wrote:

Intelligent people will tell you that the tobacco companies aren't the root of society's smoking ills, the people who buy their products are. Let's encourage people to quit by cutting their healthcare lifelines and force them to literally pay for their recklessness.

05 Aug 2010 02:45p.m.

David Jacobs wrote:

Kathy - you are right, ASH should go. They are nothing more than a boil on the bum of the taxpayer. Talk about Carter and his spending - how much does this pseudo-intellectual group suck out of the system each year? More pigs at the trough.

05 Aug 2010 10:06a.m.

Carol wrote:

All of this is happening because the supposed opponents get away with scientific fraud. They deliberately use defective studies based on nothing but lifestyle questionnaires, to falsely blame tobacco for diseases that are really caused by infection.

http://www.smokershistory.com/

05 Aug 2010 08:40a.m.

Jim wrote:

Hmm, where do these organisations get these statistics. Oh yeah, they make them up so that they can keep getting Govt funding (from our taxes of course). What a waste of money. Go away and let people live as they choose dorks!!!