No surprises at gay marriage approval
Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:23a.m.
By Dan Satherley
Green Party MP Kevin Hague says it's not a surprise the select committee looking at a bill that would legalise same-sex marriage has given it the go-ahead.
Labour MP Louisa Wall's Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill passed its first reading last year, and is due for its second reading next month.
The only change the select committee has asked for is to clarify that no celebrant, recognised by a religious body or nominated by an approved organisation, would have to marry a couple if it meant contravening their beliefs.
"[I'm] very pleased that that's the majority conclusion of the select committee," Mr Hague told Firstline this morning.
"It's not a surprise – that's what submitters told us, and we know already I guess that most New Zealanders do support this, and it was a pretty emphatic win at the first reading for the bill."
The bill passed its first reading by a comfortable 40-seat margin. The select committee received 21,533 submissions on the bill, more than half in support.
Only 220 people showed up to talk about their submission in person. Mr Hague was on the select committee, and says some of the submissions against the bill were "hard to listen to".
"Particularly when I know that the people holding those views about people like me – gay and lesbian people – will be interacting with others who are perhaps less robust and less sure of ourselves as I am. But the overall impression I have is that, with very few exceptions, while the views that we heard on the select committee were strongly held, they were at least sincere."
Mr Hague has been with his partner for nearly 30 years. Previously he said he wasn't interested in getting married, after three decades doing fine without having any choice, but hearing so many submissions in support of the bill has him reconsidering.
"Listening to all of the submissions – particularly from young people, who are really passionate about the opportunity to marry, I can feel my romantic emotions stirring. Who knows?"
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18/03/2013 7:43:47 p.m.
@CRAIG : Yes, Rugby may be Rugby if it is Union or League, but Rugby is not the same as handball, is it? Different ball games, different names. And I did not attack Kevin Hague. I like him, mate!
18/03/2013 9:26:40 a.m.
But Les, the basic game is still rugby, regardless of which coded variant of it is played. Indeed, some professional players (Sonny Bill Williams) switch codes regularly. If they're pluralistic in their preferences, then your metaphor breaks down.As for the attack on Kevin Hague, he's former chief executive of the AIDS Foundation, don't forget. Eminently trustworthy.
3/03/2013 7:09:06 p.m.
Have a good look at above picture,would you buy a car from this man,he looks more like a snake oil salesman than a politician or are they one and the same.Mr hague has stated that he has been living with a man for thirty years ,so why does he now want to get married,probably just to make a point.
The select was clearly weighted in favour of the gays there were conflicts of interest all over the place,very undemocratic , i think the
people on that committee should be ashamed of themselves
3/03/2013 5:09:40 a.m.
Is your name Les, or are you a Les ?
2/03/2013 12:10:45 p.m.
@ CRAIG : Sure, but note that each 'game' or 'code' has a different, unique name. THAT is the point.
2/03/2013 10:41:57 a.m.
I'm not sure I get your point about sports, mate. Merely because I am a Cantabrian and (naturally) worship the Crusaders doesn't entitle me to bag the Auckland Warriors just because I am bewildered by rugby league. Like union, league has its fanatical followers, and neither league or union is neccessarily 'better' than the other. Each game has its merits.
1/03/2013 5:41:39 p.m.
CRAIG, because the hetero sexual union is not the SAME as homosexual union. For example, just to state just one difference : one needs a penis and vagina, the other needs a penis and bum. One can procreate children naturally, the other not. Different things, different strokes. Different things have different names. If not, why not call all people by a 'single' common tern, men or woman or human or homos? Why not call all vegetables bananas? Why not call all sports 'ball rush'? Get it?
1/03/2013 3:52:52 p.m.
Les, nothing is intrinsically straight about marriage. Or, for that matter, monogamous, unfortunately. In those societies that recognise it, polygamous straight marriages are still marriages.Marriage refers to a formalised religious or secular civil ceremony in which fidelity, durable, permanent and exclusive commitment are (ideally) sworn to one another. Why can't it be a man and woman, or two men, or two women?
1/03/2013 9:17:58 a.m.
Oh, dear! Why try to steal the heterosexual tern, 'marriage'? Why not adopt a different equivalent term for homosexual union as the two are not 'exactly' same? One is between 'man and woman' and the other is between 'man and man' or 'woman and woman'?
28/02/2013 11:38:57 a.m.
The new normal, Not in my local Pub. WTF
Its as if Arrogance, Education Compulsory Gayness and total lack of empathy go together to make YOU the perfect for Politics.
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