‘Mistruths' around marriage bill - Wall
Wed, 29 Aug 2012 5:33a.m.
By Peter Wilson
Labour's Louisa Wall says she has the numbers to get her gay marriage bill through its first reading tonight.
“I think that my MP colleagues across the house are
committed to ensuring that New Zealanders have an opportunity through our
democratic process to have a say about what the relevance of marriage equality
is to them, and so I am confident about tonight’s vote,” she told Firstline
Although Ms Wall believes the bill has more than the 61 votes it needs, more than a third of MPs refuse to say how they're going to vote.
Prime Minister John Key thinks it will pass and so does Labour leader David Shearer, but they don't have any control over their MPs because conscience votes will be cast.
That means no party instructions for any of parliament's 121 MPs, and Ms Wall needs 61 of them to back her bill so it can go to a select committee for public submissions.
Ms Wall is probably right, but opponents are sending a deluge of emails to MPs as lobbying intensifies ahead of the vote and some could be swayed at the last minute.
“People are playing on the fears of our community and saying
that our ministers and celebrants will be forced to marry same-sex couples… I’m
a bit upset about the fact there are mistruths,” Ms Wall says.
All 14 Green MPs, the Maori Party's three MPs, Mana Party leader Hone Harawira and United future leader Peter Dunne are supporting the bill. Ms Wall says the support from party leaders shows how important the bill is.
“The leadership within the political parties recognise that
this issue is one of human rights, it’s one of ensuring that we don’t
discriminate any citizen within our country,” she says.
At least 16 of Labour's 34 MPs are expected to vote for it, and Mr Key says he thinks 12 or 13 of his 58 MPs will back it.
The bill's backers think that's a conservative estimate.
ACT leader John Banks is a surprise supporter - he told media yesterday he would vote for the bill on its first reading but wouldn't guarantee his backing beyond that.
When Mr Banks was a National MP in 1986 he voted against homosexual law reform, saying when the bill was passed it was "a sad and sickening day for New Zealand".
NZ First's eight MPs are expected to oppose the bill because they want the Government to call a referendum on gay marriage, which isn't likely.
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3/09/2012 2:31:14 p.m.
i think gayness makes me happy in tears
31/08/2012 10:12:36 a.m.
Craig Young wrote:
Back in 1982, fundamentalist Christians also campaigned against criminalisation of marital rape. If that's their idea of traditional values, no thank you.
30/08/2012 3:47:41 p.m.
"The Bible states that neither fornicators nor homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God 1 Corinthians 6:9 That is why I would oppose to the bill."
it also says rapists can force-marry their victims by paying their parents to buy them like chattel.
it also says a man can have 700 slave wives and still be considered godly.
it also says slavery is just fine and dandy.
it also says for idiots like yourself to look at the plank in your own eye.
30/08/2012 2:25:46 p.m.
Jeffrey Huffadine wrote:
The Bible states that neither fornicators nor homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God 1 Corinthians 6:9 That is why I would oppose to the bill.
30/08/2012 12:57:54 p.m.
I personally do not support this bill to me it is just not morally right, to me marriage is between a woman & a man. Politicians have no right to decide this for us, this is for the public to decide, a referendum should be held
29/08/2012 10:34:21 p.m.
(Reverend, retd.) Ken Hills wrote:
No minister or priest is forced by law to conduct any religious service of matrimony, nor ever has been. As it happens, I see no reason to oppose this Bill,but,if I were back in NZ, I would never accept any legal force to conduct a religious marriage. I would not have to under this Bill.
29/08/2012 7:21:31 p.m.
No, discrimination and hate is wrong, there is nothing wrong with love thank you very much!
29/08/2012 7:03:57 p.m.
What makes you think that lesbians and gay men don't share your concerns about crime, law and order and poverty, Robo?I do support strengthened laws against child pornography, for example. And most of us vote centre-left- Labour or Green.
29/08/2012 4:43:24 p.m.
I would have thought there would have been far more serious issues that should have been put forward to vote on than this particular subject. Where are the the members of parliment priorities at REALLY - gay marriage NOT law changes to help protect sociaty against crime and poverty or laws to actually help this country get ahead. I cannot believe a manority of the population can get this sort of thing prioritised over much more important issues - dumb and stupid.
29/08/2012 4:39:57 p.m.
This is just wrong.
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