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Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:15p.m.

By Chris Whitworth

The New Zealand Skeptics Society is planning a mass “overdose” of alternative medicines, attempting to prove that homeopathic remedies are nothing but “sham and sugar”.

The group, who say they are committed to debunking “pseudo-science” and fake theories, plan to carry out the demonstration this Saturday in Christchurch.

Vicki Hyde, chair-entity of New Zealand Skeptics, says homeopathic remedies lack scientific proof and are based on “wishful thinking”.

“It's sham and sugar –and that's why an increasing number of people around the world are saying that pharmacies are being unethical in stocking this stuff,” she says.

Mary Glaisyer, spokesperson for the New Zealand Council of Homeopaths, says the Skeptics Society lack proper understanding of homeopathic remedies.

“I think in the field of homeopathic medicine they are very misguided - they don’t understand it,” she says.

Ms Glaisyer says the Skeptics Society refuses to believe any of the scientific studies the council presents them with.

“Their line is that whatever proof we offer, they don’t believe it,” she says.

“That is not the mind of a true scientist. They’re not true scientists.”

Ms Hyde says human response to medicine is a complex combination of both psychological and physiological factors, and to date no clear evidence backing homeopathic medicine has been found.

“We just ask that alt-health proponents provide clear evidence for their claims which don't require turning the basic laws of physics and chemistry, or even maths, on their head.”

Neither parties believe harm can be done from overdosing on homeopathic drugs, the council saying overdosing merely confuses the body’s response and the skeptics saying the drugs lack any real ‘active’ ingredients to do harm.

A similar British-based skeptics group tried to get homeopathic medicine removed from the UK National Health Service in 2008, but failed in their attempt.

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(As part of the New Zealand Council of Homeopaths press release they released the following statistics)

- Dr. Peter Fisher, Medical Director of the London Homeopathic Hospital, reviewed the published homeopathy controlled trials in February 2008. In a briefing to the UK Parliament about the NHS homeopathic hospitals he said:
 
- There were 134 published RCTs of homeopathy to the end of 2007
 
- In terms of statistically significant findings, 59 (44%) of the 134 trials showed a positive effect for homeopathy (i.e., more effective than placebo); 8 (6%) showed a negative effect; 67 (50%) were inconclusive either way

- Furthermore 4 out of 5 comprehensive systematic reviews of homeopathy RCTs have concluded that homeopathy is not a placebo. 

 

Comments [11]

Kyreena
31 Jan 2010 9:49p.m.

There is a mass confusion as to what homeopthy is. For some reason it is often used as an umbrella term for "alternative remedies". This is incorrect and misleading. Homeopathy, though an alternative remedy, is unlike many alternative remedies out there and it is evident that many people argueing on here don't realise that. Sceptics respect an alternative approach to medicine, but all Homeopathy is about is "watering down medicine". There's NOTHING scientific about the process whatsoever. Sure, rescue remedy has its perks for aleviating shock, as does taking a little st johns wort for stress. But that is not the same as prescribing some watered down substance to people with Rheumatoid Arthritis (have a good friend who tried this deal out of desperation; she said it was the most pain she had ever felt in her life). Homeopathy itself has next to no scientific standings; it consists of a lot of made up concepts with no scientific proof. Doctors will prescribe as natural methods as possible at any chance; but sometimes some flower juice just isn't gonna cure that AIDS.

Toni
31 Jan 2010 10:21a.m.

Vicki Hyde says homeopathy is a combination of 'psychological and physiological factors". Some farmers use homeopathy for their dairy cows.So,does a cow understand the placebo effect?

Mel
30 Jan 2010 1:48p.m.

I was getting "sicker / weaker" by the year with conventional medicine and treatments that I followed to the letter for severe rheumatoid arthritis since age 15. I did everything and anything I was told by my team of doctors. Then a bone marrow confirmed I had a rare leukaemia LGLL. (Large granular lymphocytic leukaemia) 21 courses of antibiotics in one year, one after the other ... get the picture. 2002 I turned 40 and decided there has to be more to life than this. By 2004 (after seven years of abnormal blood counts, neutropenia, lymphopenia and so on) the labs were back to normal, 2008 I was discharged from Oncology/Haematology although they were skeptical that it was the "dietary supplement /homeopathic" mixture of products I was paying for. Quotes "we won't tell you to stop taking or doing what you are doing; we don't know why you have shown such remarkable improvement and been able to reverse your blood count; never seen this happen before - guess it will be making your wallet pretty sick; they couldn't say why I improved. 2010 is W&W = wait and watch = regular blood tests. One day things will deteriorate and then I will need aggressive treatment or die. There are Skeptics in every walk of life-I was a BIG one of them myself-not every thing works for every person either. e.g. Some people swear by cod liver oil for arthritis YUK yes I tried it along with green lipped mussels, deer velvet, ginger, copper bracelets (which I still wear) I have swallowed, lotioned, potioned, exercised, you name it ... desperate people spend money to try and get themselves better. I've wasted a lot of money as well and made pretty expensive urine, there has never been any money for anything else, Ive gone without a lot of things but today Im the best in 20 years so I look at it that I have INVESTED in my own health. PLEASE DO NOT try and tell me that Naturopathy/Homeopathy/Alternative therapies DON'T WORK - for ME they have literally saved my life.

Mike
30 Jan 2010 1:42p.m.

Well, I turned up for the protest and ended up taking 140 anti-insomnia pills, just out of interest. No noticable effect so far, and not really expecting any, since the label on the bottle just said "lactose" and no other ingredients, so I figured it ws fairly safe. Just sugar, and less than a moro bar. And after all, you would think if it was really a medicine a whole bottle of it would have _some_ effect, wouldn't you?

stateofthenation
30 Jan 2010 7:35a.m.

Can tell you right now that it works - I know firefighters and even ambulance staff that carry rescue remedy for people in shock. As for vicki Hyde - I'm pretty sure there is a weight loss remedy - Maybe you should chuck back a bottle or 10 of those. Offended? too bad. You're more than happy to offend me by saying this stuff doesn't work. Go get over it. ""Vicki Hyde, chair-entity of New Zealand Skeptics, says homeopathic remedies lack scientific proof and are based on “wishful thinking”."" - Yet it's OK for Jehovah's to refuse medical treatment? How does that work? Go get a life ya troll.

Kym
30 Jan 2010 4:32a.m.

Homepathy is not hippy trash, Realist. Holistic medicine has been around for thousands of years and it is used in the Eastern countries daily. The Western medicine that world has become accomstomed to has tried for years to destory the results that Holistic medicine have shown because it takes away from the Pharma companies and the high cost of health insurance. Not only do a certain combo of herbs and oils help relieve symptoms of everything from the flu to arthritis they do not have the horrible side effects of the drugs out there currently have. Also a lot of the "western medicine" prescriptions are chemistry concoctions of herbs already found in nature. I'm in college going for my masters in Holistic medicine and trust me this accurate.

Andy
29 Jan 2010 6:18p.m.

Trying overdose to prove homeopathics don't work is not very scientific. If you don't have any symptoms of illness the homeopathic remedy matched to those won't work.

Janette
29 Jan 2010 5:48p.m.

How many of our modern drugs create side affects and another 'symptom' At least homeopathy either helps or not and is safe. Whether you choose to believe it or not is your chose. We use it for our dairy cows and have fantastic results!

Realist
29 Jan 2010 3:22p.m.

Unlikely, Glen, although they might need to clean their teeth well afterwards.
Homeopathy is just hippy trash - there is nothing active in the tablets so you might as well take a spoon of sugar for a much lesser price.

Beth
29 Jan 2010 3:12p.m.

Durr, what a bunch of weirdos, I'm considered a skeptic but this is just stupid. I wonder which pharma company is paying them. lol. If what they take doesn't make them very ill, I hope they at least get a good clean out of their system perhaps it will help them with a bit of clarity and who is going to decide which ones they take, what a fake.

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