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Mining - what’s the point?

Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:22a.m.

By Rick Zwaan

Looking out across the beautiful bush clad hills that is the Coromandel ranges which surround my dad’s earth home, I am astounded to hear about legislation that would allow the native bush to be opened up to exploitation. Reading the local Hauraki Herald it is immediately apparent that most residents don’t “want it in my back yard”. Like them, I am privileged to have been able to grow up exploring the countless tracks that run through the regenerating bush. I’ve met people from Indonesia who tell stories about the rainforests being destroyed in the name of big business palm oil. They no longer can enjoy their ancient forests.

It seems the only line the supporters of mining can say is ‘it will benefit the economy’. But will it really? The numbers being thrown around at the moment simply don't stack up. The $194 billion figure in particular is the total mineral wealth of New Zealand. That means that we would have to strip mine the whole country to get it. Oh and that number only has one source. The ‘schedule 4’ land that is being talked about at the moment is estimated to be worth $18 billion, a lot less than the big numbers often mentioned. This is about the same as 3 years of current mining activity. Now these numbers are total mineral wealth, but, New Zealand would only get about 1 percent of that, if we were able to somehow magically remove all the minerals, that would only add $180 million to our economy. Which when spread over the time period that it would take to extract isn’t that much compared to the $21 billion tourism industry that it would severely affect. Anyway, the price of gold is set to plummet when India, with its huge gold reserves finally appears on the global markets, so these numbers are rather arbitrary.

So what is the point in mining anyway? NZ journalist Rod Oram pointed out that we need minerals to build new technology that would help reduce carbon emissions. It’s true that it would be hypocritical of environmentalists to say no outright to mining everywhere as we all use the elements they extract. I’m writing this on a laptop which is made from minerals that have to be extracted from somewhere. But, what is the point in mining gold? We have already established that it won’t benefit our economy in the long term. Sure gold is used in electronic circuitry boards and is needed if we wish to develop new electronic technology. But, there are already huge amounts of gold sitting in reserves around the world not being used. Basically, we would be destroying conservation land to dig up small amounts of gold which would then be put back underground into some overseas bank vault. Is it really worth the impact on the environment?

In terms of coal, we would be extracting low grade dirty coal which when burnt will emit huge amounts of carbon emissions, adding to the climate catastrophe and taxpayers would have to fork out for them under the ETS. Sure it may supply some of our energy demands, but as with any fossil fuels it won’t last forever. New Zealand would be better off investing its time and money into research and development of new renewable energy technology such as tidal. We have an opportunity to be world leaders in renewable energy.

The passing of this legislation will hurt our tourism industry and impact on our conservation land. It’s time we show that we do care. I would encourage you all to take part in the debate online and by making a submission on the draft legislation.

 

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Comments [16]

V
16 May 2010 08:23p.m.

As soon as you mention the Global Warming CO2 con game then you loose all credibility, With the world economy biased on fiat currency collapsing food and precious minerals will be the only things worth a dam. There is no doubt that SUN drives the earth climate, emitting energy's beyond comprehension and that when the time comes we will mine everything we can get our hands on just to survive.

Monique
12 Apr 2010 04:21p.m.

I am amazed at the old school thinking some correspondents have here. ie its 'socialism vs capatalism' Huh? or that we can keep on taking stuff out of the ground and using it, or putting it somewhere else. Isn't it about time we were getting on with coming up with new solutions? new ways of thinking and smarter ways of doing stuff. How does focussing on renewable technology or choosing not to mine, somehow consign us to dwell in a cave? The most advanced societies on earth are those making full use of renewable technologies, developing solutions that implement new thinking. They are buidling cohesive communities that unite, rather than divide their people. they still have citizens, not just consumers. They place a value on 'roaming the hills -in fact roaming the hills is big business these days -check out any adventure shop! Go Rick - I too want to live in a forward thinking society where people thrive.

Nandor
10 Apr 2010 10:07p.m.

Chris, what are you on about? 1. I'm not a socialist 2. Some dams get built, some don't. Some mines get dug, some don't. These are not acts of God, people decide. ps ok THIS is my last post

chris
09 Apr 2010 05:00p.m.

A lot of this debate comes down to idealogies - mainly political but it is of course multifactorial with bio psycho social influences. In some ways it can be seen as socialism vs. capitalism and again summarized by the adage 'Socialist at 20 - Capatalist' at 40 [53 in my case]. To make the process quicker for the left leaning / Eco type / greenie type / socialist type cohorts amongst us - 'Socialism does not work - repeat please - sorry guys never has and never will.
Whilst a conversation is good with issues like mining climate change etc. opinions will be polarised - but life in the real world will catch up - mining will occour, dams will get built, nuclear power staions will get built and birds will still sing. The lefties and greenies will eventually become little capitalist themselves and get jobs, raise kids, pay bills and the world will not end and life will still be good.

Levi
09 Apr 2010 02:37p.m.

The Government's proposals, to mine on schedule 4 land, needs to be stopped right now. To make a quick or a detailed submission, go to http://coromandelwatchdog.wordpress.com/

Sarah
09 Apr 2010 10:12a.m.

Isn't it great to be having this debate? I think you raise some interesting points Rick. Like Nandor, the irony of extracting gold from under the ground in one place (from a NZ national park), only to deposit it under the ground in another place (in an offshore vault) is not lost on me. I have lots of concerns, not just about holes in the ground... what about the tailings? what about soil erosion? what about local communities after overseas mining companies leave town? what about our international reputation??? I don't think we should assume that resource consents will remove all harm... the current government is doing it's best to hack away at the restrictions they place on big businesses too.

Nicki
09 Apr 2010 09:33a.m.

Well guys, I live in Coromandel..Greenies central! In a recent publication, the Waihi Gold Mine Company Newmont, stated that they extracted $193.7 million in minerals, of that, 91% remained in New Zealand. $3.6 million was paid to the NZ govt in royalties, $24.6 million in taxes and around $40 million is contributed to Waihi's economy. And they employ 350 directly and a further 370 full time employes downstream. Yes there is a big hole which would probably not be given resource consent in the current times. However this mine has been around a while longer than some of those regulations I suspect. Take away the mine and take away the jobs and a local economy. Unless you are directly affected it would be hard for those of us who are secure in our employment outside of the mining industry to imagine the devestation of losing income, house and/or business and eventually a town. Without a doubt - open cast mining would not be given consent. With all the publicity, all impact would have to be absoloute minimal. For example, dairy farmer at the end of a dirt road can't put in a new entrance unless if is beautified with trees etc so open cast mining would never be permitted. And it is not what the mining companies want any way. But I ask you this... drive anywhere in NZ and you will see without a doubt, a forestry plantation felled. Stumps and rubble remain, it is a hideous, , wasteful, eyesore. Why are we not complaining that this is an issue for the tourist industry? Where are the Greenies. Compare the visual impact of Mining in the 21st century and forestry in the 21st century. I prefer mining to stabilise our economy and I hope they hurry up and get on with it! Let it create jobs, open opportunity for business development (new and old), generate revenue for communities, improve roading and promote school role increases. Come on greenies, just for once, do some careful thinking before you speak and think outside your box. Support NZ in to the future!

Nandor
08 Apr 2010 11:51p.m.

Sorry to spam your post Rick, I felt I had to reply to Chris but I'll make it my last post. Actually Chris, Key has only ruled out (under intense pressure) open cast mining in the Coromandel and Great Barrier. And that doesn't address what will happen to the talings. As for the value of gold in vaults vs gold in the land, I'm with Rick on this one. Economics 101 doesn't address the fact that the economy is a subset of the environment, not seperate from it. This is a point that more sophisticated economists like Herman Daly and Robert Costanza have challenged mainstream economics on - to base its equations on the real world. Actually I don't think that Australia DOES use its minerals well. I suspect that Australians in 2100 will agree with me. And if you don't understand the concept of sustainability, read my blog, it's well explained (using an economics definition which I'm sure you'll appreciate). Finally the greenie conspiracy - yes you've found us out, we've paid off all the climatologists in the world with our vast wealth. The impoverished oil industry just can't compete.

Rick
08 Apr 2010 10:38p.m.

Cheers Nandor, thanks for your feedback Chris. I am aware that Mr Key has ruled out open cast mining which is a great step, however so called 'surgical mining' still has to have a noisy processing plant and a massive toxic cocktail that is a tailings dam. Newmont has said that they would use the existing infrastructure in Waihi for gold mining on the Coromandel but they would still have to truck all the ore down there. I'm sure if you've ever driven on Coromandel roads you will know how dangerous oncoming trucks are, let alone the noise, pollution, road maintenance costs and associated disadvantages of trucking. Oh and to get the amount of gold out that would get the figures that are being talked about would take something like 500 underground mines the size of the one at Waihi. In terms of jobs, yes of course people would be employed but only about 100 per mine (going by current figures from Waihi's mine) which is rather insignificant in terms of solving unemployment, and the average lifespan of mines is only about 10 yrs after which they will cost the taxpayer as they may end up unemployed again with ongoing health issues due to the unpleasant environment that miners work in. I see a better way of creating jobs would be to manufacture windmills or other renewable technologies, these create long term employment through maintenance. Yes NZ was "built on mining" and we're still recovering from it 100yrs after most ceased (case in point, landslides and floods that threaten my home town Thames) and no Chris i don't want to 'live in a cave' or a mine for that matter, I would like to live in a modern forward thinking society that is not built around short term economic gain. Oh and on the point of the Climate Catostrophe, if you chose to read a single source from one website rather than listen to the consensus of thousands of world leading scientists then stay home and enjoy doing that, it wont change the minds of our world leaders.

Chris
08 Apr 2010 05:48p.m.

Nandor you appear to have been green washed. The point of Gold in vaults should be apparent to you as in ecomomics 101. John Key has stated in the media there will be no open cast mining - listen to the news. Mining for minerals / gold etc. has been for centuries and continues to be a stable part of the world economies. Australia utilises its mineral wealth well as you know. Mining for minerals will provide a 'sustainble' long term econmic base. [An over used greenie word if there ever was one - there is no such thing as 'sustainability' per se only change]. Greens love to be negative be anti progress without providing any reasonable alternatives. Tourist also do not go 'ugg... I am not going to Austrlaia, France, UK etc. etc. because they mine there' - more emotive Eco sensationalism again from the greens.
As for AGW - science daily is showing that it is a con and a fraud again promoted by the Eco greenies and left leaning socialist who want to manipulate and control societies. And Sam if Rick places his opinion in the media he needs to handle any response - dont be an apologist for him and I am not anal about my spelling as you appear to be.

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