NZ First climb polls on back of teapot tapes

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Thu, 17 Nov 2011 6:00p.m.

Peters spoke about the teapot tapes in Invercargill this afternoon

Peters spoke about the teapot tapes in Invercargill this afternoon

By Rebecca Wright and 3news.co.nz staff

Winston Peters has sent the tea cups flying - and the police have begun taking action.

The New Zealand first leader has repeated at a campaign speech what he says are direct quotes from the private Epsom conversation between Prime Minister John Key and John Banks.

Lawyers acting for the cameraman who recorded the conversation between the Prime Minister and Mr Banks are going to the High Court, seeking a declaration that the conversation was not a "private communication".  

If they are successful, police would not be able to bring charges against the cameraman under the Crimes Act.

It looks as if the teapot tapes could be having a positive effect on the NZ First leader’s election chances.

A 3 News Reid Research poll has Mr Peters on the move, up by 1.1 percent to 3.5 percent, and National down to its lowest level since it won the 2008 election.

Mr Peters said he did it to show how manipulative and insulting Mr Key and Mr Banks had been.

The speech was delivered to a Working Men's Club in Invercargill - but Mr Peters’ words were aimed at a far wider audience - and he says those words came from the mouths of Mr Banks and Mr Key.

Click here for a transcript of Mr Peters’ full speech

Click to watch a video of the full speech

Describing that conversation as "cuppa-gate", Mr Peters said it shone a long overdue light on John Key's judgement.

Among the details of the conversation he gave, were that it covered rebuilding ACT with a new leader - ACT candidate Catherine Isaac.

Perhaps what incensed Mr Peters most was when he says the conversation turned to Mr Peters himself and Mr Key was speaking.

Mr Peters says the Prime Minister said his “constituents are dying”.

Remember ACT's leader Don Brash is on record saying John Banks assured him nothing derogatory or embarrasing about Mr Brash had been said – a line Mr Brash maintained today.

But Mr Peters claims Mr Banks describes Mr Brash as “a strange fellow” in the tape, and Mr Key replies; “Yes, we’ve been down that road before.”

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So where does that leave Mr Key and Mr Banks?

The Prime Minister was in Whangarei this morning - and still not in a mood to talk about the tape recording, repeatedly saying it was a matter for the police.

And police were on the case - visiting 3 News and preparing search warrants, even before Mr Peters made his speech.

Search warrants are being prepared for four major New Zealand media organisations and the Prime Minister has had to fend off accusations of wasting police time.

"Actually National has brought the crime rate down so the police have some spare time on their hands,” he said.

But then the New Zealand First leader splashed the tea all over the walls.

So the question now is are Mr Peters’ quotes accurate or accurate enough?

And could they see him facing a prosecution?

Police told 3 News we would face prosecution, if we were the ones who went public with what Mr Banks and Mr Key had said.

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18 Nov 2011 04:51p.m.

Missy wrote:

@fmacskasy.wordpress.com I take it you are saying that JK and JB are paid by the taxpayers and were having a private meeting on work time, so therefore the taxpayer has a RIGHT to know what was said in the meeting. In that case I guess you won't mind your employer recording ALL your private meetings that you have in WORK time and then publishing them for everyone to read, after all, they pay your salary and so have a right to know what you say in all your private conversations. The media were invited for a photo op, and asked to leave when it was over, and told they were unable to record the meeting, why did all but one manage to comply with the request? Journalists are the least trustworthy so called professionals in my opinion, and this incident reinforces my opinion. Also, as a previous poster said, listen to what Winston Peters said on Monday - he said it was ILLEGAL and NOTW tactics, now he wants them released, there appears to be a very quick change of mind by Winston. Finally, to the poster who brought up the supposed hypocrisy of JK over the police extra surveillance powers. There is one vital difference, the police are required to get a warrant from a judge in order to covertly record anyone, and the recording is only used in legal proceedings, in this case JK was covertly recorded by a journalist with no warrant and no legal right to do so, that is why he doesn't like it!

18 Nov 2011 11:40a.m.

ben wrote:

Winston has said he will not go into coalition with Labour or National. So if you want John key as PM but don't want asset sale - vote for Winston. National will be a minority government (more votes than the Labour/Green block = they can form the government) and NZ first will block them from passing unpopular policies like asset sales. After all Winston is basically and old fashioned conservative populist - he was a national MP once. So a vote for Winston = No Asset Sales & John Key as PM If you believe the polls this is what many of us want.

18 Nov 2011 05:40a.m.

Talen wrote:

Is it me, or is Winston smiling way,way too much over this. Kinda makes you think .....

18 Nov 2011 12:30a.m.

Clarke wrote:

@Karori Kev Yes but there is still 9 days of thinking about how bigotted John Key is to go until the election... and TVNZ will release a new poll tomorrow... its results last time were that National dropped to 49 percent... I would expect this time that they will be sitting at about 46... and thats only if you believe these polls anyway... they have been wrong fro 3 years.. they even predicted a John Banks win in the Auckland mayoralty race and that one wasnt even close. Alot more people are begginning to realise how redneck John Key is.

17 Nov 2011 11:59p.m.

katrina wrote:

This is definately a storm in a tea cup. Do you really think JK is going to be discussing anything serious and confidential in full view of a million reporters in a public cafe? It is all a media fiasco.

17 Nov 2011 11:31p.m.

peteremcc wrote:

ACT went up the same amount as NZ First in this poll. Can you journalists get back to your real job please?

17 Nov 2011 10:56p.m.

Karori_Kev wrote:

This cup-of-tea hype hasn't hurt National one bit according to the latest polls. Its now a failed media initiated and driven event that was designed to play public opinion. Can we go back to serious journalism around policy that kiwis care about, the complete and utter failure of Labour, and the rise and rise of the Greens please??

17 Nov 2011 10:10p.m.

Roger wrote:

Peter @ 7:31pm Mate, Year 8 English is the minimum requirement for commenting here. While some might see it as amusing, your grammar and spelling are so bad one cannot take you seriously.

17 Nov 2011 10:08p.m.

Lee wrote:

I think the real issue is if they release the tapes it sets a very bad precedent that conversations can be sneakily recorded and then released. Is that the type of society we want to live in?

17 Nov 2011 09:58p.m.

Dave wrote:

There's been no significant new news about this for a week, but the media are still worked up in an orgy.

After the election this will go down as the biggest media beat-up in our history.

Perhaps it's time to bring the broom out and get some new reporters and news editors who have just a slither of objectivity.