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Thu, 26 May 2011 1:00p.m.

Nandor Tanczos speaks at the Festival for the Planet

Nandor Tanczos speaks at the Festival for the Planet

By Dan Satherley

Ex-Green Party MP Nandor Tanczos says climate change is the "greatest threat we have possibly ever faced".

Speaking at the Festival for the Planet on the weekend, Mr Tanczos told a packed Auckland Town Hall mining lignite coal was an "absurd idea".

Solid Energy last week claimed mining low-grade lignite in the South Island would make the country $5 billion – half of that in direct profit, the other half in savings from not having to import coal.

"That's the equivalent of about 10,000 policemen," Don Elder told TVNZ.

"It's a couple of thousand hip operations a week. It's paying for our entire rural broadband in two or three months."

Mr Tanczos however says it's time for "ordinary New Zealanders to seize back the debate, and take control, take power" and reject coal mining.

"Right now, the human species faces the greatest threat we have possibly ever faced," he told the crowd.

"But at the same time we face our greatest opportunity, because there is the chance now for us to make a real transformation in our lives and in our consciousness."

Mr Tanczos' view was backed up by New Zealand climate scientist Jim Salinger, who called on the Government to stop investing in non-renewable energy.

Mr Salinger, who was fired from the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research for speaking to the media without permission, said New Zealand is "lucky" that we have so many other sources of energy.

"We have the solutions," said Mr Salinger.

"Already our electricity is two-thirds renewable – solar electric, solar thermal, tidal, wind power, geothermal and bi-energy, so I'm with you all that we keep the coal in the ground.

He pointed to recent temperatures in Auckland being the highest ever recorded for the month of May.

"It is time for us all to take action, to make change."

Mr Tanczos said politicians could not be trusted to do anything about it.

"We're not going to leave it to politicians to do something about it, because they won't... well, with a few exceptions," he said, acknowledging the presence of the Greens and the Mana Party at the conference.

"We're not going to leave it to big business to do something about it," he continued. "We are going to take control of our own lives and our own communities, and we're gonna make the change, and we're gonna demand the change."

Mr Tanczos then read out Energy Minister Gerry Brownlee's cellphone number, urging everyone in the crowd to send him a message, right there and then. Someone in the crowd asked if he had Prime Minister John Key's number.

"I did try to get it, but he wasn't sharing," said Mr Tanczos.

NASA scientist Dr James Hansen, who was instrumental in bringing attention to the threat of climate change in the 1980s, says New Zealand is "blessed with enormous potential in renewable energies", and digging up lignite "just doesn't make any sense".

"We're going to have to move on to other kinds of energy anyhow, so why not do it sooner?

"Leave the rest of that stuff in the ground, and let's have a cleaner, healthier planet."

To further this message, the Green Party today launched its Keep Coal in the Hole computer game, which is essentially Tetris, but with pieces of coal instead of bricks.

The game is accompanied by a member's bill, which MP Gareth Hughes says is to "incentivise clean, green and low-carbon economic development".

“Large scale lignite mining in Southland could see New Zealand’s carbon emissions increase by as much as 10 million tonnes a year, when we already need to decrease them by more than 20 million tonnes a year.

“That is bad for our environment and our economy. We should be pursuing modern renewable energy solutions, not 19th century coal." 

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28 May 2011 09:14a.m.

Mike wrote:

Why doesn't the world adopt a fair Carbon emission measure? Because it profits the polluters too much not to do this.

The worst carbon emissions in the world come from the EU if measure emissions per sq km as they have the highest population density and the most advanced general public making the most emissions.

If adopted a fair global measure like net carbon emissions per sq km, then NZ comes out not as a carbon emitter, but a carbon soak. The greens have their heads buried so far up the EU's backside they can't see that likes of NZ is 'Green' and 'Clean'. NZ forestry as planted pre 1990 is excluded from NZ's carbon emission and NZ forestry grows around 4x faster and soaks almost 4x as much carbon as similar trees grown in the northern hemisphere, but we are not allowed to include the carbon soak of our forrestry!

The problems in the world are caused by people, so where the most work needs to be done is where there are the most population density in 1st world countries, ie the EU. Who is doing the least? The EU. Why does the EU want everyone but them to do more? As it protects their 1st world status and hold the rest of the worlds development back. So basically if you support NZ Green policy your not supporting the enviroment, your supporting the EU's 1st world status.

Take renewable energy, Germany is in single didgits renewable while NZ is mostly renewable. We are not seeing Germany change to a significant % renewable or any other heavy polluter from the EU.

27 May 2011 02:16p.m.

Alan wrote:

Having environment friendly energy sources is a wonderful idea and that is it - a wonderful idea. Something that could be achieved only slowly as the facts are people are going to do their best to provide for their family here and now. Everyone would love to help but not at the risk of not providing for their loved ones. Ban coal, follow the idealists and live off the land but forget about buying equipment to work the land, forget about medicines, hospitals, cars... Just change the country's name to "Zimbabwe number 2"
If NZers work together with a common cause it has the potential to do a lot better and be the Norway of the Pacific, just don't let the nutters blow it as the window for the chance to be on top again is getting smaller all the time.

27 May 2011 01:31p.m.

Max Coyle wrote:

Great article Dan! As for the comments so far, Cherie and Cyril; It's sad that you feel you need to dismiss climate change by talking about someones recreational tonic of choice, shame on you for belittling such an important issue. Aron, coal cannot and lignite are not burned cleanly, and more jobs would be created long term creating sustainable energy generation, short term jobs for a short term future are a short term outlook, the cons far outweigh the pros. http://www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/all-publications/lignite-and-climate-change-the-high-cost-of-low-grade-coal/

26 May 2011 09:28p.m.

cyril wrote:

Yep Tanczos is dead right. We have never faced a greater threat. Drugged up shallow thinking greens who will see us all in the third world cutting down all the trees to use to cook our food and warm our hands in our mud huts.
Most of the renewable energy options he mentions are at best experamental and expensive, some are marginal at best. The only efficent and cheap renewable energy we have is Hydro and the green drugys wont let us build dams. They would sooner cover the ridge lines with unsitely windmills, our valleys with mirrors and our harbours with tidal generaters. All experimental, expensive to install and maintain options except solar which is enefficiant in the low sunlight enviroment of southland and most other parts of GodZone. So we dont dig up our lignite but until we get a better alternative what say we keep buying more of that expensive poluting arab oil.

26 May 2011 05:22p.m.

robert rozee wrote:

"so why not do it sooner?": my sentiments exactly - oil and coal will eventually run out, no matter what your views on the 'green' issues are. why not tackle the problem now while we have space to move, rather than leaving it to later generations when energy will be a far greater problem. my personal favourite: hydro-electric. renewable energy from technology that is well proven and passed the test of time. we need to build more dams, not dig holes in the ground!!

26 May 2011 04:43p.m.

Alan wrote:

Follow the Green fanatics and any other fruitloop and be poorer for it. Without the rest of the world working together any effort from NZ will be a drop in a bucket. The way NZ is going the system will be one of an inadequate health care system, low quality education and limited police resources. Many people will feel they have no choice but to move overseas and NZ will be eventually viewed as just another Pacific Island nation needing aid. Sadly this is already how ignorant and arrogant Australia views NZ. NZ needs to earn a living to have a quality of life and too many sadly do not understand this.

26 May 2011 04:42p.m.

peter wrote:

@ Katrina - you do when you turn on a light switch!

26 May 2011 04:39p.m.

Stuart Young wrote:

What's your source for saying that coal can be burned cleaner? I would argue that the myth of clean coal is just greenwash promoted by the coal industry. They keep promising clean coal technology it but it has never eventuated and it will never be economic. I also think that the number of jobs that Southland could achieve from coal mining is miniscule and not worth the ensuing environmental degradation and heavy metal pollution. In fact I would argue that there could be a net loss of jobs for the region as tourism drops when tourists realise the landscape has been irrevocably spoilt.

26 May 2011 04:33p.m.

Miss Marples wrote:

Aron, you are missing just one tiny little point - during your lifetime you are going to personally witness the devastating affects of global warming. You will be so HOT, and witness so many extreme weather events - tornadoes, storms, floods, droughts, etc - that you will rue the day you ever made this suggestion. Don't ever tell your children or grandchildren what you have just said, or they will disown you.

26 May 2011 03:25p.m.

Aron wrote:

Dig the coal the people of Matarua and Gore need jobs, Lignite and coal can be burned 90% cleaner then it was in the 19th century but the green bandits dont tell you this!