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From today the jury does not have to come to a unanimous verdict, 11-to-one is good enough

From today the jury does not have to come to a unanimous verdict, 11-to-one is good enough

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Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:00a.m.

The days of juries agonising until they can reach a unanimous verdict are over, as from today judges can accept an 11-to-one decision.

It is part of major reforms to the justice system.

But many lawyers are not happy.

After three days of futile deliberation in the trial of antique dealer John Barlow, the judge let the jury go.

A costly re-trial was held – only for it to end the same way. He was found guilty after the third trial.

But, as of today, the jury does not have to come to a unanimous verdict, 11-to-one is good enough.

“We can’t afford in the criminal justice system to have constant retrials,” says Justice Minister Simon Power.

We are following the lead of England. In most of the United States a unanimous verdict is still required, while in Australia all states except the ACT accept majority verdicts for some crimes.

Depositions hearings have also changed. These were used to decide whether a case should go to trial.

Witnesses had to give evidence, often recalling distressing details – if the trial went ahead they had to do it all over again. Not any more.

“Victims of crime will have one less traumatic experience to have to go through,” says Mr Power.

But a leading defence lawyer says it will harm innocent people.

“The doing away with depositions is based on cost savings,” says Barrister Marie Dyhrberg.

“But the cost will simply be put at the other end and many people will stand trial now, when they never should have.”

National MP Chester Borrows is also strongly opposed to his own government’s action.

“There is a real danger that there will be protracted trials,” says XXX Chester Borrows.

“They will be extended and those that go to trial will be costlier.”

Opponents of the changes to deposition hearings say all sorts of evidence comes out that the defence lawyers would not otherwise know about until the trial begins.

At the very least they wanted the changes postponed, but instead there will be a review in two years.

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Comments [2]

cherie
30 Jun 2009 12:45p.m.

Wow Peter feel better now?

This is common sense. At the moment we constantly hear of one jury member voting (either way Peter) from the outset and who will not look at evience or even try to find a solution.
Innocent guys going through another trial becasue a woman on the last jury had a friend who was raped etc.

It goes both ways. You always get someone who will not do what is asked by the system which is to take "that case" and its eveidence into account only.
Peter who knows maybe these other cases would not of found the "so called" INNOCENTS guilty if this had been in.

Peter James
30 Jun 2009 6:08a.m.

This is what ya get when NZAI Fascists , the corrupt , and greedy .. take over the country..
Corrupt , greedy .thieving ...Scum.
child murdering ones at that..
Funny they didnt hav a problem setting up David bain,, Arther Allan Thomas..
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc...and a whole lot more.. innocent nz ers whom cant attract ,, a special person.. as an advocate for them..
Yes it has become harder to set up the innocent
with twelve jurie members..
Oh thats right back then people believed the rhetoric ,, and bullcrap that police didnt lie. wouldn't move evidence. as many of us know now the police will do anything to get a conviction.. they don't care about guilt.
They make the facts fit the case..
or dont take statements from those whom statements they dont want ,as it doesnt fit there case..

and the lawyers participated with them, and many still do..refusing to tell juries about the polices behavior for years..even threatening there clients they would walk if they said anything against the police.

JUSTICE .yea right.
There just making it easier to set up inocent people,,
and now ya cant go to england and there courts to ,, get help. with police, court, judge , and there mates in Parliaments.. corruption,, as they are above the law in NZ .They proved this when they blatantly, corruptly,, and arrogantly stole tax payers $$ and changed the law to make there crimes go away.
as the people whose job it was / is to hold these people accountable wont do it..
It has now become up to the public to go and hold these people accountable, even if we hav to go outside there houses,, and call them what they are.. corrupt, thievs.They hav set up a corrupt system where they dont hav to deal with the people they have violated.
So time to ignore there corrupt systems and go hold them accountable personally.
Like our granddads had to.. they died to keep us free from nazi crap like this.



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