Police: Gunman not dead

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Fri, 08 May 2009 12:00a.m. UPDATED: 8:43PM

Len Snee

Len Snee

Police tonight have rejected reports the gunman at the centre of a siege in Napier is dead, but several cars have moved through the police cordon carrying people not wearing protective clothing.

Campbell Live reported that it had heard from sources that the gunman, Jan Molenaar, had died from a self-inflicted wound and that ambulances were on the scene. 3 News has been since told the report was incorrect.

And on TVNZ's Close Up programme, inquiry head Superintendent Sam Hoyle declined to comment when asked if Mr Molenaar was dead.

"Jan is still at the address, we can't confirm his status right now."

Earlier tonight police retrieved the body of slain officer Senior Constable Len Snee.

Armed police entered Molenaar's property at Chaucer Rd on Hospital Hill just after 5pm.

Mr Snee's body was recovered from the driveway of the property, where he had lain for about 32 hours.

Mr Hoyle said it was a relief to be able to bring Mr Snee's body away from the scene.

"We are pleased for the family that we are able to bring him out - it has been a traumatic and immensely difficult time for them," Mr Hoyle said.

No police were injured during the retrieval of the body.

Molenaar yesterday allegedly shot and killed Mr Snee and badly wounded Senior Constables Bruce Miller and Grant Diver, as well as a neighbour who tried to help police.

The officers had been on a routine drugs operation at the house.

Eastern District Commander Superintendent Sam Hoyle said earlier this afternoon that the standoff could finish "in the next five minutes or go on for days", and that over 100 extra officers had been brought into Napier from around the country.

Police said they were prepared to wait to try to resolve the situation without any more fatalities or injuries.

Many people today have paid tribute to Mr Snee, 53, among them a woman who emailed 3 News to say he and other officers searched her home last year because they suspected her flatmate was cultivating cannabis.

She said Mr Snee was "the officer in charge and he was really cool. I am very sad to hear he has been murdered, and the others hurt as well."

She also made a plea that officers be allowed to carry firearms in such circumstances.

Mr Hoyle said it was a relief to be able to bring Len's body away from the scene.

"We are pleased for the family that we are able to bring him out  - it has been a traumatic and immensely difficult time for them".

A former neighbour believes he wouldn't have wanted to come out alive.

Alex Cunliffe, 16, moved from Napier Hill two years ago but had spent the previous 13 years living just down from Molenaar's property.

Mr Cunliffe told NZPA he would visit Mr Molenaar four or five times a week, and had remained in close contact.

He described Molenaar as an "average normal father".

Mr Cunliffe was at the edge of the cordon area when armed police descended on the gunman's property around 5pm today and more than 20 shots were heard.

He was devastated when he heard the shots but said Molenaar was "the kind of guy who was always ready for something like this, he was prepared".

He said Molenaar had had a run in with police a week ago when he and his partner were driving around the suburb of Greenmeadows.

Mr Cunliffe said his friend "thought they (the police) were racists". Molenaar's partner was Maori.

He said Molenaar "wouldn't take shit from anyone especially the police".

Mr Cunliffe did not think his friend had survived the latest round of shots this evening but said "I don't think he would want to come out alive anyway".

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14 May 2009 09:25a.m.

jaden wrote:

I think that everyone is wrong about saying not to arm police with gunsmy example is the napier sige if police knew if Jan molenaar had guns they would have taking guns with them and they should of had backup police with them like the Aos and the police did do go at handling the Napier siege

Jaden Student Greenpark School Christchurch

09 May 2009 04:07p.m.

Steve wrote:

Fraser, you make nice enough comments, & on the surface your guidance to our leaders and the ideologies they believe in just seem like common sense. After all, so many New Zealanders wish to believe that tougher sentences and ever more invasive police powers are how to solve our health and social issues.
As a nation we jail 185 people per 100,000 (2007, Ministry of Justice). This may not seem significant as a statistic until we consider that only China, & the USA incarcerate more citizens than us.
USA has over two million people in prisons. Blacks make up about sixteen percent of the population but over 70% of the national prison muster. In such a society, where three times the numbers are jailed on a per capita basis, & certain State Governors hold the power of life or death over those sentenced to die for criminal acts, US society and the environment the system has manufactured there, can not be described as a peaceful, terribly happy or safe place.
Do we have to jail three times as many as we do now before we can feel some progress is being made? Should we now further militarise the domestic police force?
If this incident is the kind of dramatic battle you wish for your neighbourhood then just make sentences tougher, no choice then but to arm the police, & try and stop gang members wearing certain insignia on their clothing.
The drug war is important. We will not tolerate drugs.
Prohibition discriminates against a broad swathe of New Zealand society. People from all walks of life. Our taste in drugs is a personal matter. The only reason others should take care to interfere is if some assistance is requested, or there is a serious likelihood that other univolved parties may be harmed in some way.
Fraser, you may not use anything illegal, but hundreds of thousands do in the country we share. What do we do when people just say "yes" to drugs?
How can we force people to stop altering their consciousness?
Was the cache of tinnies in this case worth it?

09 May 2009 08:54a.m.

fraser wrote:

I hope Judith Collins backs our police fully unlike the backing she gave corrections at Ngawha Prison where 5 officers were smashed over by 15 crims. Give the boys in blue a chance. they cant win. if they sit and wait they get criticised, if they do something and it goes wrong they get crucified. If you can do better ethan, join the police force and make a differance. Dont bag them you egg. Media pull your heads in. Dont try and guess what is about to happen. Report the facts only.

08 May 2009 11:17p.m.

Erik wrote:

@myself
Of course I meant 'ACAB' mentality.

08 May 2009 11:16p.m.

Erik wrote:

@roy
Nobody here can change your 'ACAP' mentality, but could you please show some respect? It's not like the policy is giong to inform the media on every next move they're going to make. Just wait and see what happens, I'm sure the Napier police force is doing all it can!

08 May 2009 11:01p.m.

Alien wrote:

and you know what the police are doing do you roy? Not even the media know what the police are doing. but hey, lets you verbally vomit your police hatred.

08 May 2009 11:01p.m.

Jamie wrote:

Mr Cunliffe visited Molenaar four or five times a week TO SMOKE SOME WEED WITH HIM.

08 May 2009 10:58p.m.

roy wrote:

Holy shit the police are still standing around not knowing what to do..... this is getting embarrassing, very very embarrassin. did someone say "havnt been trained for this" yeap they sure did.

08 May 2009 10:56p.m.

Ethan Subritzky wrote:

I think New Zealand's morale standards are dropping, at a shocking rate. Me, Im only seventeen alot of Seniors have no care for my say as typical stereotypes. well i WILL have my say. Noone want's there loved ones in this kind of situation.My Nana lives just down the road from this Imbersils house. Much respect for the fallen officers and citizen. They are what you call heroes. NZ PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN!!!!

.Ethan Subritzky.

08 May 2009 10:40p.m.

Steve wrote:

Also worth mentioning that John Campbell saw fit to relay what he though were the police plans at the time on his show telling the gunman they were assembling to make a move. Good one John, when's your trial for aiding and abetting?