No need for GCSB inquiry - Key
Fri, 28 Sep 2012 4:13p.m.
The Prime Minister is rubbishing calls for an independent inquiry into illegal Government monitoring of Kim Dotcom.
A report by the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security Paul Neazor found the Government Communications Security Bureau is to blame for the embarrassing blunder.
Opposition parties and Dotcom are both calling for further investigation, but John Key claims that is unnecessary.
He says the Government knows what went wrong and how to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
“You can have all the systems in the world, but if human error comes in and someone fails at the most basic level, sometimes it’s hard to protect against that.
“But we’ll put in place other measures to make sure that’s picked up in the future.”
Mr Key says he is not concerned about a police complaint laid by the Green Party about the illegal surveillance.
Earlier today Labour leader David Shearer wrote to Mr Key, asking for an independent inquiry into the GCSB’s illegal spying.
The GCSB didn't know internet tycoon Kim Dotcom was a permanent resident when it spied on him from December 16 to January 20, the day he was arrested on allegations of copyright piracy.
The agency is forbidden by law to spy on citizens or residents.
"This isn't just about whether a couple of people screwed up at the lowest levels of the GCSB," Mr Shearer said on Friday.
"It's about many serious issues, including how a number of key agencies like the Intelligence Co-ordination Group which reports directly to the prime minister, were either unaware of the issue or deliberately kept it from Mr Key."
Mr Key says another inquiry isn't needed.
"We know what went wrong, we know what we have to do to fix it," he said.
Mr Shearer says he shouldn't sweep it under the carpet.
"It goes to the heart of our national security, New Zealanders' right to privacy and our international reputation for open and honest government."
Mr Key was told on September 17 about the GCSB's spying and ordered an investigation by the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Paul Neazor.
His report was released on Thursday.
It concluded the police and the GCSB were confused about Dotcom's status and didn't consider the implications of a 2009 immigration law change.
Greens lay police complaint
The Green Party laid an official complaint with police over the Government Security and Communications Bureau's illegal spying on Dotcom this morning.
In a letter to police commissioner Peter Marshall, co-leader Russel Norman says the GCSB, Prime Minister John Key and the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Paul Neazor have acknowledged illegal activity took place.
"The Neazor Report clearly concludes that the GCSB had no authority under the GCSB Act to intercept the communications of Mr Dotcom and Bram van der Kolk," says Dr Norman.
"Both the Neazor Report and the Prime Minister’s public statements have repeatedly labelled the GCSB’s actions illegal.
"The GCSB appears to have breached s216(B) of the Crimes Act, which bans interception of private communications – that is the same law that John Key claimed Bradley Ambrose had breached in the so-called ‘teapot tapes’ affair."
During last year's election campaign, Mr Ambrose inadvertently recorded a conversation between Mr Key and ACT Party Epsom candidate John Banks at a central Auckland cafe.
At the staged event, to which media were invited, Mr Key offered his support to Mr Banks as the preferred candidate for the Epsom electorate.
Mr Key laid a complaint with police, saying the recording of the private conversation was illegal.
An investigation was held but police decided not to prosecute Mr Ambrose, although they called his actions "clearly unlawful".
Several media organisations, including TV3, were investigated by police following Mr Key's complaint.
The recording was never officially released, but appeared on the internet in January.
NZ First leader Winston Peters is hinting for an investigation into the ordeal, taking to twitter this morning.
“The PM's ignorance on a raft of vital matters relating to the Dotcom case is screaming out for investigation,” he says.
The tweet comes after Mr Peters’ speech yesterday during a snap debate at Parliament when he called Mr Key the “spray and walk away” Prime Minister.
“If any other minister had been this incompetent, the Prime Minister would have fired him. We are saying: Prime Minister, fire yourself.
“This is going to leave us as the laughing stock on the international stage,” he said.
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3/10/2012 6:09:44 p.m.
We want an enquiry John, the people of New Zealand. We clearly do not trust you! So often we hear from you " the bottom line is" or "the people of NZ deserve" yet we ask a question and you refuse to answer. Seriously, who are you? You have no conscience, no care and each day you sell out our people in yet another form, when will it end. Tell the truth John, tell the truth!
1/10/2012 1:46:13 p.m.
I agree. It would be a waste of public funds. The Dole is also a waste of public funds.
30/09/2012 9:55:28 a.m.
Mr Peters. Read this: Theft is more strongly hyperbolic, emphasizing or exaggerating the perceived harm of infringement to copyright holders who choose to utilize their copyrights for profit; it connotes a kind of loss which infringement may not actually effect, and the U.S. SUPREME COURT has even ruled that infringement does not "easily" equate with theft. In alleging Kim Dotcom is a thief you are committing Criminal Libel against a Finnish citizen. 2 years in jail. Either pull your head in or go and talk to Kim before you sound off about him
29/09/2012 1:47:47 p.m.
vines wilks wrote:
i am real sad because this prime minister has been all i warned people about , in 2008 i told people they will sell assets etc , what worries me is that john key does not have ethics what are ethics he said that's a dangerous person to have in power . oh well nz you dis serve you were so easy brainwashed we you not . so you nz and john key dis serve each other . ex kiwi now in Australia .
29/09/2012 1:03:18 p.m.
Robert M wrote:
How can you have a real inquiry into a totally secret agency like GCSB. Is the GCSB truly a kiwi organisation- from my distant recollections of reading the Nicky Hager magnum opus -Secret Power- there are likely to me a number of American foreign nationals in key positions at any time at the Wahopai and Tangimoana bases. Tangimoana was so secret that it was apparently only discovered for public notice, when Owen Wilkes blundered onto a sea food gathering coastal walk. Any revelation of the nature of Tangimoana and Wahopai electronic, sub and human targets-doubtlessly and inevitably 99.9 % selected by the Yanks would have the inevitable result of making NZs partnership in electronic surveillance impossible. Both Geoffrey Palmer and by implication the Attorney Genral have acknowledges this. As we have only limited spying talent we provide suitably postitioned real estate for listening and interception. The really interesting thing is the raid on Dot Com appears to have occcured during the tenure of former head of the PM and Foreign Affairs head Simon Murdoch as head of GCSB. Either he approved or his position and those of GCSB are only nominal impresssives who know nothing about electronic spying and ask no questions. I remember being asked by Helen what I knew and could find out about Tangimoana on which questions where being asked in the mid 1980s. Within a week she expessed satisfaction with Robert Muldoons official outline of the bases activities, which said next to nothing.
28/09/2012 10:36:17 p.m.
helen time wrote:
no look i am sorry ive lost all respect for key over this issue i wont be voting national next time thats for sure hes a blatent lair and after watching the video duncan garner posted with key hounding clerk over the same thing with peters . mr key your a suck mate . no no need for an inquiry becaouse corupt john does not thing we need one , becaouse he knows he would have to sack not banks or english but resign himself for misleading the house and the nation . when hes in the crap he plays it from the bankster play book and that wont do in politics .
28/09/2012 9:27:31 p.m.
No @John, that would require exceptional circumstances. This is about "Commensalism vs Parasitism" with the host being coorperate America, eg music studios and film studios. JK has a commensal relationship with cooperate America and has had it for years. Kim dotcom is a parasite sucking off the cooperate host and therefore they are rightly or wrongly calling for their commensatite(JK)to help them flick it off. Otherwise their commensalism partnership is off.
However I personally would like an inquiry so that we know what "their" (government spies) moral standards actually are.
28/09/2012 8:35:54 p.m.
Just Me wrote:
If I heard correctly John Key instructed Paul Neazor to make a report regarding the GCSB on Kim Dotcom 'bugging' in a 'restricted' by JK manner.Mr Neazor could not investigate in the GCSB monitoring of Kim Dotcom without it becoming politically disabling for John Key and the National government.One,especially when in government,doesn't want any further damaging material to become public knowledge.
JK did not hesitate after the taping of the JB/JK cuppagate incident to make a complaint for further investigation by our over-stretched Police force.That was an obvious waste of Police time and resources in our crime filled country.Within months of cuppagate there was news about reducing Police numbers in regions thanks to the newly elected National government.
It's interesting to see Winston Peters' makng disparaging comments of this current corrupt National government.Will he later enter into a coalition government with them at the next general election like before(in 1996)?Back then he swore he would not enter into a National/coalition government with National.One week later after the election he was a Minister in a coalition government with National.
If John Key or the entire National government have nothing to hide then they should be completely and utterly open with us the NZ Voters who are their employers. If it wasn't for the NZ voters our politicians would not have such a perk ridden job as they currently enjoy.
At least all this takes attention away from the intended state asset sales,the Crafar farm sales,the teacher-pupil ratios in Canterbury,the people currently losing their jobs through-out NZ and everything else this National government wants to gets out of the way with little or no notice by media and the public that is not in the public attention right now.
28/09/2012 7:58:13 p.m.
Well Jimmy I think the Governor-General should be asked to desolve Parliment, call an election. We have a PM and Deputy PM possibly in breach of the law,they will not explain, they will not fall on their swords,and the police seem reluctant to prosecute possibly because of their own involvement, the whole thing has become a sham. No wonder a lot of Kiwis who come home after being overseas for years see this country as corrupt from its Government down to its Councils. Once again PROSECUTE ALL in charge of this SHAM.
28/09/2012 7:33:39 p.m.
Expose the lot of them! Demand a strict adherence to every man and woman and child's right and that is to be free from the tyrannical dictatorship that is becoming the widly accepted norm in our world today.
Who does this poor excuse for a human being think he is. Be a man admit you think you are above us and take the consequences. Pathetic gutless roaches and their hidden microphones people like you make me sick.
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