Norwegian hunters may face charges back home

24 Apr 2010 01:36p.m.

Jordan Wyatt wrote:

Killing a NZ Wood Pigeon is no different to killing any other bird, or any other animal. Veganism avoids hurting all animals. http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

31 Mar 2010 10:39a.m.

Jim wrote:

Hmmm, Dan it seems that you have blood on your mind. That aside just a question:
We bring tourist over here and leachingly take as much money as we can off them. I agree with Kiwi Chick that some NZer’ profited by hiring the guns, selling the ammo and sending them on their way to have a Kiwi Experience as long as they did not hurt each other or other hunters. Does NZ have a code of "To Do's and Not to Do" that they give out to tourists? I would say not, and I hold them responsible.
This takes me back to when I was In Corporate NZ; we gleefully took lots of money off wealthy Chinese immigrants, but gave them no practical help to assist with them with settling in here, no they had to do that by themselves.
I am in no way pardoning these guys for what they did, but I am sure we would have been in total ignorant bliss if they never photographed their indiscretions.
Also, do us Kiwis always ask the right questions when we are overseas hunting and fishing. Who is going to let me know what is a native species of a particular country are or am I expected to find out for myself while some dodgy slaes-persons fleeces me of my tourist dollars and say she'll be right mate.
I would say we, as Kiwis, need to look in the mirror before raising the "crooked" finger in self-righteous accusations all the time!!!

31 Mar 2010 09:58a.m.

JD wrote:

The sad thing here that many people and the media are neglecting to mention; dozens of these birds are killed in NZ each year by those who believe it is there customary right; only difference, they are not so stupid as to post the evidence on YouTube.

30 Mar 2010 06:54p.m.

Nor wrote:

These idiot-"hunters" are o so stupid, no matter where they come from. For us Norwegians who dream of visiting New Zealand to fish and explore your amazing country, it is a shame that they happen to be from here. They bring shame on all of us. Please dont judge a whole nation based on these fools. We all hope they will get their punishment here.

30 Mar 2010 01:27p.m.

Norseman wrote:

"Rachel", this story is about the charges the hunters may face in Norway. Let me enlighten you about Norwegian law. Intention does matter, and in this case it will reduce their sentences. Secondly, the law that carries up to six years in prison requires the species, in this case the kereru, to be endangered. Well, it isn't according to international standards (IUCN). There are other laws, but they are restricted to Norwegian wildlife and carry charges up to one or two years. As you understand, my two previous comments are based on the reality, and is not an attack on Maori culture. I share your views regarding identification. It's ironic to allow identification with pictures, but not with names.

30 Mar 2010 10:04a.m.

Embarrassed Norwegian wrote:

These idiots WILL be prosecuted in Norway, and can get as much as 6 years for killing protected wildlife. They probably won’t get that much though, so I think we should send them back to you guys. Let a few angry Kiwis punish them. On behalf of my country I can diffidently say that we are all embarrassed by this.

30 Mar 2010 09:17a.m.

Gard wrote:

Hi New Zealanders, From Norway here: Apparently the Norwegian police now knows the identity of these fools, and they risk a maximum penalty of 6 years in jail according to our penal code. Here´s to hoping they get the max, then! It has always been a dream of mine to pack my fly rods and travel to NZ and explore your legendary trout streams. While the actions of these idiots are beyond belief, I still hope you will not judge all Norwegian from what they did. This case is a hot potato in the Norwegian mass media now, and rightfully so. I think they will get what´s coming to them.

29 Mar 2010 10:59p.m.

San WU wrote:

Those idiotic low lives should be banned from entering NZ in the future. I curse them. Some of them will drop like the beautiful woodpigeon we have seen on screen. Curse them again.

29 Mar 2010 05:21p.m.

Rachel wrote:

"Norseman" feel free to use this page to do just that. The only reason why we don't have the names of these morons spread all over the media is because they have that protection while the matter is being dealt with. Ironic isn't it?! Meantime they cover their tracks and ditch Youtube and Facebook accounts. That being said, what you and them share is (again) an ignorance of New Zealand's cultural values that are applied to indigenous flaura and fauna. It sickens me that in a country rich with natural resources, protected for future generations with such protection - you chose to apply ignorance with a definition of endangerment. Let me enlighten you on the cultural value these kereru have. To the Maaori all indigenous flora, fauna and even landmarks have a spiritual entity that connects them to the physical world. There is a Treaty in place that enables Maaori to expect this tradition be upheld by our government. The response from all New Zealanders is unified, because quite simply my friend,we live in a country that has a responsibility to uphold the traditional values of it's people, that sovereignty (historically) has sworn to protect. In Maaori culture, ignorance is not an excuse. And by continuing to impose your own foreign values and attitude in this matter you do nothing but consolidate what many of us feel toward the like of you and yours. Any Maaori raised with traditional values and beliefs know that the trampling of mana has occured and the matter is far from over.

29 Mar 2010 11:13a.m.

Valerie wrote:

When you visit another country, wouldn't you be cautious of what you do? As Ruth had said, what the heck were they doing with guns? I think these lads ought to be punished..Ban them from visiting NZ again.