Novopay getting worse - teachers
Mon, 17 Dec 2012 8:49p.m.
School principals say the Novopay debacle is actually getting worse rather than making improvements.
The latest survey of more than 900 schools found staffing, usage and expenditure (SUE) reports were correct for just 16 percent of schools, down from 36 percent a month ago, New Zealand Principals' Federation president Paul Drummond said.
It also found 83.9 percent of schools reported at least one staff member got the wrong pay, up from 59.6 percent in November, while unresolved pay problems from previous pay rounds went up from 83.3 percent to 84.5 percent.
In addition, the survey found 90.1 percent of principals reporting their SUE reports for holiday pay were incorrect.
"By this stage we would expect to be seeing substantial improvements in the performance of Novopay, but instead, every pay cycle throws up new problems and unresolved issues remain unresolved," Mr Drummond said.
He said 97 percent of principals now had no confidence Novopay would deliver an efficient or supported pay roll system by the end of next year.
"The system is fundamentally flawed," Mr Drummond said.
"It's time to go back to the future, reinstate designated pay roll support staff for each school, while expert technicians are brought in to work on what is a 'derailed system'."
Labour acting education spokesman Chris Hipkins said Education Minister Hekia Parata and Associate Education Minister Craig Foss should forget about holidays until they have fixed the system.
"This has been going on now since August. It beggars belief. Hekia Parata and Craig Foss should have rolled their sleeves up months ago and sorted this mess out.
"Instead we are a week out from Christmas, with school staff still living with the uncertainty of a botched payroll system. Our teachers deserve a decent holiday, but perhaps Ministers Foss and Parata should stay at work until Novopay starts delivering."
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7/01/2013 1:09:11 p.m.
Yeah Jim,again with going back in time to drop some blame on the Labour. You're right, that having no previous dealings with Talent-less2, Chris Carter approved the contract but it was Bill English who gave them the eventual green light to go ahead and begin June 2012. Giving Talent-less2 the thumbs up despite having their flawed record with the Telecom contract to use as a guide. Overall approval having the benefit of hindsight that Labour never had originally, so your point doesn't really ring true? National just needs to realize that more than 4 years in and into their second term, NZers aren't interested in blame games, they want to see some leadership. Finger pointing is for kids in the playground, which is kind of how these guys act whenever the pressure goes on....Jonkey and National should front with some policies that fix the nation's woes or the courage to own their mistakes when those policies fail. Haven't seen much of any of those qualities from this govt and I'm not holding my breath.
18/12/2012 4:45:16 p.m.
Latest newsflash on the Novopay site A tip to 'help' us complete our start of year. Thank goodness I only have 40 staff - feel sorry for those with 200. What a waste of my time - that I am not getting paid for!!
WHat a nightmare - I've had enough!!!!!!!!!This system was NOT ready for release.
Copied from Novopay site - check it out
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18/12/2012 10:34:07 a.m.
And the biggest issue of all......the payslips of employees don't match the payroll report!!!
18/12/2012 8:39:46 a.m.
Jim Seaview wrote:
Bugger - Only 3% of all Teachers have confidence in Novapay operated by Talent Not 2 Burn who I am pleased to know do not produce xmas cake recipes, because I like xmas cakes???? How can NovaPay get worse? It is a bit rich for Labour acting education spokesman Chris Hipkins moaning and suggesting that Ministers Parata and Foss should not take any holidays until Novapay is running smoothly particularly when it was the Hon Chris Carter of the Labour Government who approved the contract with Talent2 to develop Novopay in 2008,one of the largest and one of the most complex pay systems in Australasia. Maybe all the current Labour politicians should not take any leave this Christmas so that they can help out Novapay. It would certainly increase the Talent Not To Burn in the fruit cake mix!!
17/12/2012 11:17:21 p.m.
Vicky Devine wrote:
NOVOPAY ... No pay ...No vacation pay for teachers
I am not a teacher, I'm a parent that appreciates the hard work that teachers do.
Please minster just give them what they deserve, the teachers have been patient for long enough just give them their correct pay or any pay would be a good place to start for some!!
17/12/2012 10:15:18 p.m.
you would think that would be the worst of it, but no. There is another surprise coming at the end of 31st March. Student Loan payments haven't been made since 15th October, kiwisaver payments haven't been made either and I am too scared to look if PAYE payments have been made on our behalf. Yet the money has been deducted from our payslip. Who's going to fix this issue? The minister of the Inland Revenue now needs to step in and be involved.
Union Payments also haven't be paid. yet the money has been taken from our accounts. Is novopay making money from interest?
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